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Old February 2, 2012, 03:09 PM
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Hey all, what do you think Behemoth's guts would go for now?
But guts I mean:
4x Opteron 8435s (24 cores @ 2.6 ghz total)
8Gb DDR2-800 ECC Ram
Tyan S4985 Motherboard (with PCI-E x16 slots and a 8x SATA ports)
4x Coolermaster TX3s

Also, what would a very good condition Dell 2407WFP go for?

Thanks all. (Yes im seriously considering the upgrade, lol)
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Old February 2, 2012, 08:32 PM
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Don't mean to thread jack but I've always wanted to know if those "folding" setups are any good in real-world use, as in every day tasking and heavy gaming. Any big performance difference over a single Core i7 or similar processor?
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Old February 2, 2012, 08:37 PM
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No. Video rendering? It'll blow an i7 out of the water.
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Old February 2, 2012, 09:17 PM
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No. Video rendering? It'll blow an i7 out of the water.
Cores > Threads. Simply put, hyperthreading cant hold a candle to a system like this when i comes to any CPU-intensive task. That means folding, encoding, web hosting, databasing, etc etc is all better with the above mentioned parts.
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Old February 2, 2012, 10:42 PM
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Hey all, what do you think Behemoth's guts would go for now?
But guts I mean:
4x Opteron 8435s (24 cores @ 2.6 ghz total) ~ $150 to $175 each
8Gb DDR2-800 ECC Ram ~ $40
Tyan S4985 Motherboard (with PCI-E x16 slots and a 8x SATA ports) ~ $250 to $300
4x Coolermaster TX3s ~ $5 each

Also, what would a very good condition Dell 2407WFP go for?

Thanks all. (Yes im seriously considering the upgrade, lol)
Mobo value has bounced back up from a low of around $150 a year ago now that it's hard to find. As for the chips, I bought my 8439SE's for $180 each a year ago - so I think closer to the $150 end of the scale for the 8435's makes sense today.

Glad to see you back and quad'ing up!
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Old February 3, 2012, 04:15 AM
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Can't let you "kids" ( get it? Quadfather) to run amok for too long. Lol

I'm thinking about 900 or so for the bundle (150 x 4 for cpus, 200 board, 100 ram and coolers). If I can get somewhere near there then I'm 100 ready to sell (reasonable offers would be accepted) . What do you guys think?
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Old February 3, 2012, 06:26 AM
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I think that a very fair price in fact i would try to get the coin myself just a a folding/video pc
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Old February 3, 2012, 07:19 AM
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the problem isn't really thread vs core per say

but it's mostly with windows and/or the applications not being written to take full advantage of the multi threads (real cores or hyperthreads)

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Don't mean to thread jack but I've always wanted to know if those "folding" setups are any good in real-world use, as in every day tasking and heavy gaming. Any big performance difference over a single Core i7 or similar processor?
well I am transcoding a DVD collection right now on the 2P folder that is my sig rig, I am working with Handbrake 0.9.5 and with normal profile (single pass) I get 150FPS (6 times faster than real-time) and the CPU usage is not jumping over 75%, so I can watch a movie in HD in the mean time. I could also game in the same time but I need more ram. 4GB on the way.
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Old February 3, 2012, 10:09 AM
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the problem isn't really thread vs core per say

but it's mostly with windows and/or the applications not being written to take full advantage of the multi threads (real cores or hyperthreads)

-joe
Actually, the opposite of your argument is true. Processes that are well-written to take advantage of multiple processors benefit less from logical threads (provided by Intel HT, for example) because they will consume more of the available resources of each physical core, leaving less available for the adjacent logical thread. HT provides the greatest benefit for poorly-coded SMP processes.

For example, my 24 core 8439SE box at 2.8GHz outperforms my 24-thread E5649 box at 4.0GHz in FAH, but the SR-2 handily wins in Handbrake because that software is not as well coded for SMP saturation. A perfectly-executed SMP process should show zero difference between HT-on vs. HT-off while using 100% of all available cores.
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