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Old November 15, 2010, 02:40 PM
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I don't understand what's the point of this card? Same price, same perf in gaming ( from what they say ) just...less shader? is that a way to sell GPU that were missing few shader core out of the factory? Do someone know why this card exist seriously?
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Probably defective gf104 cores.
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Old November 15, 2010, 03:47 PM
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I'm sure some consultant or marketing executive got 5 figures for coming up with that name.
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The card that automatically comes to my mind when I see SE is the 6200 SE "WITH TURBOCACHE" and we all know what a steaming pile that was......


Looking back over previous Nvidia naming conventions, the SE designation is normally reserved for a budget version of a mainstream card. IMO, doesn't work when there are two different 460 cards and this fits in between them.....

Gotta be some crappy binned GPUs from one of the lines. (Unless of course there's a "magic" bios update that will unlock them to something better..... ;) ).
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Then please explain why the GTX 460 1GB does better than the GTX 465, yet it's priced cheaper and named lower.
Here is the answer

In marketing speak: the GTX 465 is still an integral part of our plan going forward. It excels at high tessellation - an area where the GTX 460 may find itself behind due to its lower number of PolyMorph Engines. For this reason, we have chosen to continue marketing the GTX 465 as a lower cost alternative to the GTX 470.

In my speak: The GTX 465 was a face-palm of epic proportions from a performance / price / consumption standpoint but it allowed NVIDIA to get rid of some unused GF100 cores.
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one reason i like this site is of the occasional very openess of ppl from editor to lil geo kinda dude :).

the 465 was more of a 'trick and treat the fool' a bit like the 5830, plus the power figures
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The 465 is pretty much underwhelming compared to other options out there, and was definitely created to sell off defective parts (5830 is the same idea). The 460SE (IMO) is also created to sell off defective parts, but I think it likely will still do a decent job. Bring forth the reviews to tell the whole story.
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question is, what are the numbers associated with these 'failed parts'

do they get 20 percent yield with between 228 and 288 cores and then decide to average out or...? :)
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The card that automatically comes to my mind when I see SE is the 6200 SE "WITH TURBOCACHE" and we all know what a steaming pile that was......


Looking back over previous Nvidia naming conventions, the SE designation is normally reserved for a budget version of a mainstream card. IMO, doesn't work when there are two different 460 cards and this fits in between them.....

Gotta be some crappy binned GPUs from one of the lines. (Unless of course there's a "magic" bios update that will unlock them to something better..... ;) ).
However, if you go back further, there was the TI4800SE and that card was no slouch and in no way a crippled anything. But at the same time there was the MX440SE, which made the regular MX440 look good.
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However, if you go back further, there was the TI4800SE and that card was no slouch and in no way a crippled anything. But at the same time there was the MX440SE, which made the regular MX440 look good.
Yes, but wasn't there also a full fledged TI 4800 at the same time?
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