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Old May 13, 2009, 09:05 AM
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Yeah whatever, they are not selling anything at cost.... I would like to know what a CPU really costs! If you make millions (!) of CPU's and you sell them at an average price of what $ 200, you're still not making profit? Come on... I'm blonde but not that stupid...
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Old May 13, 2009, 09:16 AM
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According to this....

BBC NEWS | Business | EU slaps a record fine on Intel

The fines will be going to the EU rather than to AMD so I'm a little less inclined to think this is a good thing. This makes it look like a tax grab, and I'm wondering if the US gov might get involved claiming unfair trade tarifs or something similar....
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Old May 13, 2009, 09:23 AM
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The pot calling the kettle black, what.

The "Anti-trust Trust fund"
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Old May 13, 2009, 01:21 PM
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I'm having a hard time understanding exactly what it is Intel did wrong here :P
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Old May 13, 2009, 01:31 PM
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They basically told their customers that they'd be at a disadvantage (over their competition in a business with exceptionally low margins) if they dared to offer any AMD options in their lineup.

It's the threat of higher pricing for using AMD that's the crime. If they had just offered their product at a price that AMD couldn't match, but left that decision to the customer, they would have been fine.
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I like this fine. I was curious as to why the major OEM manufacturers didn't sell systems equipped with AMD CPUs, such as MGD, Dell, HP etc. Now, we might have found out why they didn't sell systems equipped with AMD CPUs and why Intel deserves this fine.

Personally, I believe North America needs to work harder to prevent company from being monopolies like Microsoft and Intel.Intel should be able to pay this fine no problem since they are still continuing to make a profit, as seen in their last quarter results. Plus, Intel said they're going to make an appeal, so the fine will definitely be dropped down to maybe $800 million or something like that. They definitely won't pay $1.45 billion.
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It just bugs me that the money goes to the EU.
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. Plus, Intel said they're going to make an appeal, so the fine will definitely be dropped down to maybe $800 million or something like that. They definitely won't pay $1.45 billion.

Unfortunately given the EU's record (ie with Microsoft) even if it drops, they are going to slap billions of dollars worth of charges onto them.

MS's went from something like 495 million euros to over 1.5 billion euros because Microsoft was filing appeals and such and therefore delaying the payment.... so the EU added additional fines to nearly triple the penalty.


They are nothing but a government cash grab
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Old May 13, 2009, 06:24 PM
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Unfortunately, most articles about this topic haven't been explaining the issue in full depth. Basically, what happened is that Intel pressured the big retailers to sell Intel products only.
Imagine Best Buy and Future Shop selling only Intel computers.....
The customer never got a choice.

Monopoly ---> higher price, less choice

BTW, the EU just issued a rather big order of Dell system, AMD based. I think the volume was around 63 million Euro.
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The EU, they go after these companies to make easy money, nothing else. They dont care about monopoly.
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