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Old March 7, 2009, 01:18 PM
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Gainstown is just the Xeon side of i7; as usually it does not offer a performance increase.
Yes, but its a dual processor system. It is the only one available so far.
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Yes, but its a dual processor system. It is the only one available so far.

Yeah but it's a mac designed system and historically their dual processor systems are pretty terrible performance wise.
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Yeah but it's a mac designed system and historically their dual processor systems are pretty terrible performance wise.
Facts to back this up?
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As much as I despise Apple, that has to be the cheapest high end PC I have ever seen from them. I expected it to be $5K+.

@ encorp: That was before they were using mainstream Intel chipsets and processors. Besides that, Mac performance is never been bad, it is the attitudes of most Mac owners (not you lowfat) that has historically been poor.
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As much as I despise Apple, that has to be the cheapest high end PC I have ever seen from them. I expected it to be $5K+.

@ encorp: That was before they were using mainstream Intel chipsets and processors. Besides that, Mac performance is never been bad, it is the attitudes of most Mac owners (not you lowfat) that has historically been poor.
The last generation Harpertown 8-cores were a bit cheaper. ~$3000 for an 8-core 2.8GHz system. Which is why I am a little disappointed with the $3200 for an 8-core 2.26GHz system.
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Gainstown is just the Xeon side of i7; as usually it does not offer a performance increase.
that's what i thought and you will be able to build this for a lot cheap in the next few months
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Gainstown is just the Xeon side of i7; as usually it does not offer a performance increase.
Mac Pro is the one and only Apple product I truly like. Why? It actually offers you things you can't get anywhere else. Their motherboards were specially designed, and I won't go over the numerous benefits of what they've done. The case is not only beautiful, but amazingly easy to access.

Historically, they weren't as good as their Pentium competitors, but since they've switched to Intel chipsets, their Harpertown Xeon Mac Pro is just as good as its "PC" counterparts (kind of a misnomer these days, they're both x86 PCs). They were slightly better designed though, as you can't use ultra-wide FB-DIMMs without blocking other DIMM slots on non-Mac Pro motherboards.

The only real differences between Gainestown and Xeon:
- DDR3-1333 support on the highest-end X5500 and W5500 series models.
- Dual QPI 6.4 GT/s (second is only used if you are running dual processors), versus single 4.8 GT/s on i7, except i7 965 which has 6.4.
- MUCH greater variety of CPUs. They even have a dual-core version for $200, and a 2GHz quad for supposedly $250.

They're all kind of moot points though, since you get all of that by overclocking your i7.
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that's what i thought and you will be able to build this for a lot cheap in the next few months
Do you think?
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cebit had dual socket 1366 boards there just everyone is still under nda's so it was real hush hush but end of summer i think by the latest
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Once configured, without a lot of optional stuff but with the nice stuff, $13,899!!!


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