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Old December 24, 2008, 10:17 AM
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So I finally bought a UPS since the power has been going a little wonky lately and It would be nice not to have to deal with drive corruption if my system blacks out.

I purchased the Belkin 1500VA, but apparently it doesn't give enough juice when I start gaming. It's beeping and warning me that it's being over loaded.

From using some calculators to determine my systems power draw (903 watts at 80% load) and putting them into a UPS calculator I found online its telling me I need something around 2000VA, which makes sence since my system loads this 1500 to 60% just at idle.

I saw this 2000VA ULTRA UPS Ultra ULT33046 2000 VA 1200 Watt AVR Backup System UPS w Digital Display in Canada at TigerDirect.ca. My concern is that I haven't heard exactly good things about the brand ULTRA, but from what I read online it seems to be a capable unit. Does anyone have experience with this UPS or a similar one that would be able to power my system? I looked at APC's but they are asking close to if not more than $1000 for anything at or over 2000va and that's way our of my price range. Ideally I'd like to stay under $500.
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Old December 24, 2008, 10:31 AM
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So I finally bought a UPS since the power has been going a little wonky lately and It would be nice not to have to deal with drive corruption if my system blacks out.

I purchased the Belkin 1500VA, but apparently it doesn't give enough juice when I start gaming. It's beeping and warning me that it's being over loaded.

From using some calculators to determine my systems power draw (903 watts at 80% load) and putting them into a UPS calculator I found online its telling me I need something around 2000VA, which makes sence since my system loads this 1500 to 60% just at idle.

I saw this 2000VA ULTRA UPS Ultra ULT33046 2000 VA 1200 Watt AVR Backup System UPS w Digital Display in Canada at TigerDirect.ca. My concern is that I haven't heard exactly good things about the brand ULTRA, but from what I read online it seems to be a capable unit. Does anyone have experience with this UPS or a similar one that would be able to power my system? I looked at APC's but they are asking close to if not more than $1000 for anything at or over 2000va and that's way our of my price range. Ideally I'd like to stay under $500.


Hi,


Do yourself a favour and stay away from that Ultra UPS. It's not a high quality machine and you'll get more protection from a smaller APC UPS than from this product.


APC makes excellent network grade UPSs, they are a little pricey but you can find yourself good deals. Consider purchasing refurbished with new batteries, or look around for one of those on sale (don't buy overstock, they come with dead or nearly dead batteries)


The unit you mention is big on specifications, but will not fulfill.



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Old December 25, 2008, 09:16 AM
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I have excellent experience with UPSes made by APC. My current one is a Smart UPS 1500 VA which I bought at Dell.ca when it was on sale for CAD 199. I also regularly see this on sale at Tigerdirect.ca.

I actually have 2 workstations connected to it, my primary PC with a Core 2 Quad CPU (Q6600), GTX 260 video card, and powered by a Corsair HX620 and an older PC with an 3.0 P4, ATI 850 and powered by an Enermax 450 watt PSU. I also have a 27" monitor, as well as 2 external eSATA drives hooked up to this PSU and even with all of these turned on and I am playing a game on my main computer I have had no problems.

The PSU also has a USB connector that you could plug to your PC and Vista recognizes it just fine. I did not use the APC supplied software for automatic shutdown, preferring instead to rely on Vista's built in battery power options.
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Old December 25, 2008, 09:33 AM
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Alright, I figured that the Ultra one wouldn't be a quality unit.

My problem is the highest power one I can get through work is the Belkin 1500 that currently wont supply enough power once I load my system. I don't want to buy a new one (be it new or refurb) and have it not power my system once again, and then have to go through sending it back. The wattage rating on the Belkin is 830. Tony, you seem to be quite knowledgable on the subject, do you think that one of the APC's around 980ish watts could handle my rig below, plus a 24" (maybe a 32" if i can find a deal tomorrow) LCD monitor, preferably my modem and router as well?

IE, something like this?
APC Smart-UPS 8 Outlet 1500VA 980Watt UPS DLA1500 in Canada at TigerDirect.ca

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Old December 26, 2008, 08:42 AM
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Alright, I figured that the Ultra one wouldn't be a quality unit.

My problem is the highest power one I can get through work is the Belkin 1500 that currently wont supply enough power once I load my system. I don't want to buy a new one (be it new or refurb) and have it not power my system once again, and then have to go through sending it back. The wattage rating on the Belkin is 830. Tony, you seem to be quite knowledgable on the subject, do you think that one of the APC's around 980ish watts could handle my rig below, plus a 24" (maybe a 32" if i can find a deal tomorrow) LCD monitor, preferably my modem and router as well?

IE, something like this?
APC Smart-UPS 8 Outlet 1500VA 980Watt UPS DLA1500 in Canada at TigerDirect.ca

Hi,


Yes, the DLA1500 or the SUA1500 has 980W, it should be able to hold it together for you. If you want a little bit of extra juice, consider going for the 1500TLV. It has 1050W. It might just give you that extra little bit to keep the system from over loading when you have the heavy loads running.


IBM APC Smart-UPS 1500 1500TLV


Take a look at that one when you have a chance.



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Old December 26, 2008, 02:18 PM
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Most "consumer grade" UPS including Belkin are only intended to let you finish up a print job, close off your open files and shut the system down gracefully when the power goes out. If you want serious run power during an outage that will require a quality unit and at higher output levels they aren't particularly cheap. My first choice, prices no withstanding, is APC. Worth contenders are also BEST and Tripplitte. I have a 1000 VA APC on the home workstation that works great. Smaller units on other machines.
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Most "consumer grade" UPS including Belkin are only intended to let you finish up a print job, close off your open files and shut the system down gracefully when the power goes out. If you want serious run power during an outage that will require a quality unit and at higher output levels they aren't particularly cheap. My first choice, prices no withstanding, is APC. Worth contenders are also BEST and Tripplitte. I have a 1000 VA APC on the home workstation that works great. Smaller units on other machines.

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I couldn't agree more! The consumer grade units aren't designed to provide a serious run time and aren't designed for essential applications.

APC had to make these units in order to compete with cheaper imports that were starting to flood the market. Also, not everyone wants to spend $250+ on a network grade UPS.

The network grade UPSs, even the refurbished ones provide better protection any day than the consumer lower end ones.


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Old December 26, 2008, 02:29 PM
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It's not that I'm looking for run time, all I want is a minute or two to close everything and shutdown my system.

Even while on AC the Belkin model was still overloaded and this is what I'm trying to avoid. I'll take a look at that APC you suggested Tony.
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It's not that I'm looking for run time, all I want is a minute or two to close everything and shutdown my system.

Even while on AC the Belkin model was still overloaded and this is what I'm trying to avoid. I'll take a look at that APC you suggested Tony.

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Let me know if you have any questions about it, I would be glad to answer them and discuss the unit and its capabilities.



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