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Old March 8, 2012, 06:59 PM
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Old March 8, 2012, 09:33 PM
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UEFI "BIOS" has been around for a few years and can be found in a number of systems and motherboard right now (all Intel "Sandy Bridge" are UEFI iirc).

I rather doubt Microsoft (and their hardware partners) would be stupid enough to leave themselves open to one of the largest anti-trust suits in the world.

This may shed a bit more detail:

Windows 8's locked bootloaders: much ado about nothing, or the end of the world as we know it?

Like the article says, it's the ARM-based folks that have a real headache on their hands.
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Old March 8, 2012, 10:13 PM
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LOLZ at the FUD. First off, it works nothing like what the OP speaks of. Secondly, this only will lock down users of WoA(Windows on ARM). Most "certified" x86 (think OEM like HP, Dell, Lenovo, etc) devices will have an opt-out (BIOS option) and those that don't for whatever reason(certain OEM's like to lock their BIOSes down to the nth degree) will still have a "custom" secure boot mode. The idea is that it will help securing the boot process, making rootkit and other attacks more difficult, and yes Linux can take advantage of this too(in the "custom" mode). The only downside is it might make custom Linux installations on OEM devices more difficult than simply putting in a DVD and installing, and impossible on ARM devices.

It has NOTHING to do with DRM. The actual Windows 8 doesn't give a flying hoot about if secure boot exists, if all your content comes from a swedish website and won't brick your device. The only people with legitimate complaints are those who want to load Linux onto their WoA devices.

windows 8 secure boot - Google Search
Windows 8 Secure Boot: Calm down, Microsoft is simply copying Apple | ExtremeTech
Windows 8 Secure Boot: The Controversy Continues | PCWorld Business Center
Windows 8 secure boot could complicate Linux installs
Microsoft mandating Secure Boot on ARM, making Linux installs difficult
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that is why they are doing this is because most of the windows 7 hacks are Bios based
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I'll just wait for release to see what actually happens. There's a lot of time between now and then for Verizon or some other oppressive cell provider to ask MS to lock things down or for some lobby group / watchdog / lawsuit to force things in the other direction.

With Windows 8 however, that horrible tablet/desktop combo GUI will stop me from installing it long before some BIOS thing will.
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Old March 10, 2012, 10:39 PM
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It's not the UEFI I hate it's that "godawful" Metro GUI. It may do ok on a smartphone or maybe a tablet but it doesn't belong on a desktop.

Now if they made 2560x1600 LCD touch screens with a 10px^2 touch resolution and the interface looked like Star Trek's computer we might be getting somewhere.
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