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Old November 28, 2011, 11:58 AM
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Flash Player is dead. Its time has passed. It's buggy. It crashes a lot. It requires constant security updates. It doesn't work on most mobile devices. It's a fossil, left over from the era of closed standards and unilateral corporate control of web technology. Websites that rely on Flash present a completely inconsistent (and often unusable) experience for fast-growing percentage of the users who don't use a desktop browser. It introduces some scary security and privacy issues by way of Flash cookies.
Flash makes the web less accessible. At this point, it's holding back the web.
its the cheap hardware and poor java script that don't work on mobile

bottom line apple wants a slice of monopoly or to be the occupy'er of media stream

funny quicktime isn't getting any exposure on mobile
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Old November 28, 2011, 01:21 PM
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Fairly certain my smart phone (Galaxy S) is a lot more powerful then quite a few people's computers who browse the internet (think 7-10 year old computers). It's not cheap hardware, it has the horse power, its the poor coding/standards and damnable security holes. That's the only reason flash gets patched, its security flaws/holes.
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Old November 28, 2011, 01:27 PM
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Reliance on Flash to build web pages is just about the worst thing in Web Design today, next to the animated gif.
Yet, it was almost an industry standard at one point.
Just like Flash will die, HTML5 will die, and whatever is going to replace HTML5 will die, and so on.
Same applies to Facebook type websites.
Isn't it called evolution?
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Old November 28, 2011, 02:06 PM
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Meh. A few bored Apple fanatics who are looking to start their own 'occupy' movement, or have decided the real 'occupy' movement involved too many cold nights outside in the winter.

Frankly, I am sick of all these 'occupy' ripoffs. I should start an 'occupy occupy' movement. The occupy movement in protest of all occupy movements. If there is one already, then I'll just make an 'occupy occupy occupy' movement.
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Old November 28, 2011, 02:07 PM
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whats the big deal about flash? if you don't like it don't install it. I block out allot of flash from my browsers using different type of software.
Well the problem is that it crashes on every possible occasion. Especially at the last two months on which it gets worse on a daily basis.
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Old November 28, 2011, 03:25 PM
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Well the problem is that it crashes on every possible occasion. Especially at the last two months on which it gets worse on a daily basis.
PC or mobile any links to where it crashes on you ?
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Old November 28, 2011, 04:16 PM
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PC. Mainly it happens on Youtube and other streaming sites, but lately almost on every site which incorporates Flash while freezing Firefox in the process. Happens at least twice a day on 2 different PCs.
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Old November 28, 2011, 04:18 PM
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Memory hog for me but does not crash any of my two systems at home, not not an identified sources of crashes on the 320+ machines at work.
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Old November 29, 2011, 06:10 AM
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its the cheap hardware and poor java script that don't work on mobile
The Opera browser on the Wii supports Flash. It does it quite well considering the Wii is arguably less powerful than most phones out there today (in terms of raw CPU power, not GPU), and being built on a PowerPC architecture no less.

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Yet, it was almost an industry standard at one point.
Just like Flash will die, HTML5 will die, and whatever is going to replace HTML5 will die, and so on.
Same applies to Facebook type websites.
Isn't it called evolution?
Edit: Know what? I wrote too much there. Here's a simpler thing: Would you rather Flash die off sooner so we can evolve HTML5 to be a true successor, or would you rather Flash become the IE6 of web design? "It works, why would we get rid of it".

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Meh. A few bored Apple fanatics who are looking to start their own 'occupy' movement, or have decided the real 'occupy' movement involved too many cold nights outside in the winter.

Frankly, I am sick of all these 'occupy' ripoffs. I should start an 'occupy occupy' movement. The occupy movement in protest of all occupy movements. If there is one already, then I'll just make an 'occupy occupy occupy' movement.
First off, stop blaming Apple fanboys. I hate Flash (IN WEB DESIGN) as much as the next guy, and I do not own a single Apple product aside from my 1st gen iPod Touch. Sure, I hate them too, but they're not the scapegoat in this.

Second off, yes the whole "Occupy" ripoffs are getting annoying. But they would never have gotten attention otherwise. And their argument still has merit. It may be a little over the top, but it has the right idea.

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Edit: Know what? I wrote too much there. Here's a simpler thing: Would you rather Flash die off sooner so we can evolve HTML5 to be a true successor, or would you rather Flash become the IE6 of web design? "It works, why would we get rid of it".
How does this movement stop that though? The people who would say "it works, why get rid of it" are the ones who wont care about occupy flash. At best this would fastforward things so flash will be the IE6 of web design sooner then later.
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