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Old February 11, 2008, 05:02 AM
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Default HA- Vista SP1 already hacked

One of the primary goals of SP1 was to seal up the two know loopholes that allow for activation hacks, and this of course, was done succesfully. However, Adrian Kingsley-Hughes at ZDNet found a new hack that required "a few seconds in the command prompt" and it's apparently already riding the torrents.

Someday someone's going to make alot of money making an OS crackproof- that is until it gets cracked
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Old February 16, 2008, 09:04 AM
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This is really no surprise. I think there will be O/S hacks forever.
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This is really no surprise. I think there will be O/S hacks forever.
There will be, but it comes down to price vrs the hassle of keeping a hacked OS activated.

I suspect that Microsoft is always working on some form of activation scheme similar to those employed on Satelite TV systems.

If they can figure out a way to do a non-intrusive monthly "ping" for legitimate copies of an OS which incorporates a search for hacks they should be able to shut down illegal copies of the OS.

Pair that with a reasonable pricing scheme (IMO, $100 for OEM XP was a pretty decent price point) and they should be able to convince folks that it's better to install a legitimate OS.
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budget for software . . . blasphemy
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Nothing is hack proof nothing will ever be. Hackers are always 2 steps ahead.
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There will be, but it comes down to price vrs the hassle of keeping a hacked OS activated.

I suspect that Microsoft is always working on some form of activation scheme similar to those employed on Satelite TV systems.

If they can figure out a way to do a non-intrusive monthly "ping" for legitimate copies of an OS which incorporates a search for hacks they should be able to shut down illegal copies of the OS.

Pair that with a reasonable pricing scheme (IMO, $100 for OEM XP was a pretty decent price point) and they should be able to convince folks that it's better to install a legitimate OS.
Non-intrusive ping = violation of privacy.
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Non-intrusive ping = violation of privacy.
Not in the slightest. Your rights to privacy do not exist for you to commit crimes.
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Old March 14, 2008, 03:54 PM
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Agreed, however I'm mad that the firewall program my friend and I made found that Microsoft had access to my computer through XP all the time, and it reported back to home base quietly.

Then the OS did not work properly because we blocked it...so how about that for my right to privacy? It's like a trojan in my system.

A non-intrusive ping makes me feel bad inside, even if its to check for legitimacy. Reminds me of Sony and their anti-cracking software that destroyed people's hardware, installed secretly and hard to remove because it was a rootkit. I'm not saying a ping is like that, but it could easily escalate I am sure.
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Unfortunately that's the cost of software piracy.

Another model is to offer content for legit copies. Imagine if microsoft made Office apps available for use on-line, but the price of admission was a "legitimate copy check". They have done this to a certain extent with things like newer browsers, but that's a one-time deal. What I'm thinking of is more of the "free diablo web server" model.
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I don't think illegally installing software that destroys my hardware for legitimate use the cost of piracy. That's downright bs and forces honest people to consider dishonest methods to preserve their computer systems that have been unlawfully breached by overzealous companies.

Pardon any anger, it is not towards you but rather the circumstances.

I never heard of the other model you suggest, but I really like the idea...I will take a closer look because I would like to learn more.
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