sorry sagath i thought i said i do all my installs and every thing from usb i know what i am doing.been doing it this way for years and yes on all my system's there under hd and you just change the boot order. I have tried this on many systems in my house to make sure and still no joy.
I can't figure out why I can't just setup a usb to boot and load the files on it. all ready tried that too
I know how to use cmd and no matter what boot i have tried no go 98 was the first i went with.
to be honesty i am just getting a little pissed that they have some how made it this hard.( or it's messed up I can't find anyone who has been able to do it or not )

thank guys/gals for any/all help this should be an easy boot but i always get no boot because of error on the disk or when i do get it to boot up with a dos that works when i run fwupdate.exe nothing happens at all hell sometimes dos will not see the usb.

we need a ripping your hair out smiley ha ha