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Old September 4, 2008, 08:40 PM
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So the community has helped me out alot, and i need some revisions before making any final decisions. I also might reconsider my PSU cause im afraid its not enough if i might attempt to overclock. So here is the build.

Motherboard – Asus P5Q Pro ATX LGA775 P45 DDR2 2PCI-E16 Crossfire 3PCI-E1 2PCI SATA2 Sound GBLAN eSATA Motherboard

NCIX.com - Buy ASUS P5Q Pro ATX LGA775 P45 DDR2 2PCI-E16 Crossfire 3PCI-E1 2PCI SATA2 Sound GBLAN eSATA Motherboard - P5Q Pro In Canada.

Price - $158.54CAD

CPU - Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Dual Core Processor LGA775 3.0GHZ Wolfdale 1333FSB 6MB Retail

NCIX - Intel E8400, Core 2 Due E8400 Wolfdale Dual-Core Processor

Price - $173.99 CAD

Visiontek Radeon HD 4870 X2 750MHZ 2GB GDDR5 2XDVI HDTV PCI-E Video Card

NCIX.com - Buy Visiontek Radeon HD 4870 X2 750MHZ 2GB GDDR5 2XDVI HDTV PCI-E Video Card - 900250 In Canada.

$599.99


Ram - Mushkin Ascent PC2-8500 4GB 2X2GB DDR2-1066 CL5-5-5-15 240PIN Dual Channel Memory Kit

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=30218&vpn=996619&manufacture=MUSHKIN

Price - $139.99


Power Supply Unit – [Corsair CMPSU-620HX 620W ATX Triple 12V 50A 24PIN ATX Modular Power Supply 120MM Fan 2X PCI-E

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=19831&vpn=CMPSU-620HX&manufacture=CORSAIR

Price - $129.99 CAD


Hard Drive – Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 640GB 3.5IN SATA2 7200RPM 32MB Cache NCQ Hard Drive *5YR MFR Warranty*

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?affiliateid=4352418&sku=31404&promoid=10 66

Price - $79.99 CAD

CD/DVD Drive – Sony DRU-V200S/BR DVD Rewritable Drive SATA - 20x DVD±R, 8x DVD+RW, 6x DVD-RW, 8x DVD+R DL, 12x DVD-R DL, 12x DVD-RAM, 16x DVD-ROM, 48x CD-R, 32x CD-RW, 48x CD-ROM, Black

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3986421&Sku=S167-4520

Price -$39.99 CAD

HSF – OCZ Vendetta 2 Triple Heatpipe CPU Heatsink AM2 LGA775 S939 S940 S754 120MM Fan 800-1500RPM 20-32DBA

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?affiliateid=4352418&sku=29311

Price - $39.99 CAD


Case – Xion XION2-SL Silver ATX Mid Tower Case 4X5.25 2X3.5 5X3.5INT 2X120MM Fans 450W W/ LED Fans & Window

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?affiliateid=4352418&sku=15438


Price - $60.39 CAD


Total Computer Price – $1392.86 excluding tax and other fees


Monitor – Samsung SyncMaster 920NW 19IN Widescreen LCD Monitor 1440X900 700:1 5MS Black VGA

NCIX.com - Buy Samsung SyncMaster 920NW 19IN Widescreen LCD Monitor 1440X900 700:1 5MS Black VGA - LS19HANKBMXAA In Canada.

Price - $179.99 CAD


Mouse – Razer Copperhead


Keyboard – Logitech G15 2ND Gen Gaming Keyboard USB Black Silver Amber LCD Panel Programmable Backlit Keys

NCIX.com - Buy Logitech G15 2ND Gen Gaming Keyboard USB Black Silver Amber LCD Panel Programmable Backlit Keys - 920-000379 In Canada.

Price - $59.99


Speakers - ???


I will be puchasing my mouse over at canadacomputers and the price is ok. I still need some speakers i just some cheap ones which will getht he job done. I've heard there are some problems with the OCZ vendetta 2 since its a push in and not screwed down. So, if any one has any suggestions or changes i can make plz let me know.

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Old September 4, 2008, 08:58 PM
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Well the parts you have choose almost seem like the standard a lot of other members have used similiar parts so your well on your way. I use the Mushkin Ascent 8000 kit i dont think you will notice a big jump on the 8500 if you want to save money but its up to you. The Seagate hard drives are a great choice as well as the Asus motherboard. Well everything looks good i cant comment on the ati videocard other then that its all good.

Just so you know you can pricematch any of these parts if they are lower from other websites and then start a pricematch on Ncix so you do not need to buy the cpu cooler from Tiger direct.

OCZ Vendetta 2 Triple Heatpipe CPU Heatsink AM2 LGA775 S939 S940 S754 120MM Fan 800-1500RPM 20-32DBA - DirectCanada

Thats the Ocz Vendetta 2- Price match to 29.90

Use the forum price match side to find the lowest prices :p you can thank me later after the savings hehe :p Enjoy.

Canadian Prices: OCZ - OCZ Vendetta 2 Triple Heatpipe CPU Heatsink AM2 LGA775 S939 S940 S754... - OCZTVEND2


Ncix will match any Canadian price listed as long as you provide a website link of the product with the price.
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Old September 4, 2008, 09:06 PM
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If you're concerned about the "push in vs bolt down" get yourself a Thermaltake bolt-thru kit, they're really cheap. Looks like a pretty kick-a** system. :)
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Old September 4, 2008, 09:31 PM
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You have done your homework and most looks really good, looks like "thos" build is shaping up.

Wouldn't this monitor be better for an extra ~$7 and 22" (the one you list is for $199 not $179):

NCIX.com - Buy Acer X223WBD Black 22IN Widescreen LCD Monitor 1680X1050 2500:1 5MS VGA DVI HDCP - ET.EX3WP.001 In Canada.

Apart from that I don't like that case because it looks like it has a limited air flow potential and is to "loud" imho, and would consider the CM690 seems many here like that case:

NCIX.com - Buy Coolermaster CM 690 Mid Tower Black ATX Case 5X5.25 5X3.5INT No PS Front USB Sound Firewire & eSATA - RC-690-KKN1 In Canada.
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Old September 4, 2008, 10:14 PM
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Awesome parts but do not mix a 4870X2 with a 19" LCD its stellar overkill if your going to go with a 4870X2 use a 22" LCD minimum to make it worthwhile. Otherwise downgrade to the 4870 and put the extra cash to a e8600 and a better case.

Or Keep the 4870X2..I certainly would and cough up a few extra bucks maybe save up a little more and get a 22" or 24" LCD and a better PSU maybe the HX1000 not that the HX620 isn't awesome it will handle the 4870X2 but to have a little extra power to expand maybe get the HX1000....

Total extra about $250 but well worth it. and maybe get a different case considering it is a $90 case with a MIR I would maybe get a Coolermaster Centurion 590 or 690 or any collection of cases. I have had the same case and I wouldn't speak highly of it... It wont fit a 4870X2 very well and its really flimsy.
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Old September 4, 2008, 10:20 PM
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Wow almost forgot about this beast of a case and on special, the Antec 900 for ~$86 (credit goes to tfran):

Buy Antec Nine Hundred Gamers Case

Pricematch that asap.
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Old September 4, 2008, 10:26 PM
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I'd suggest going with the LG W2242TQ for a monitor. It only costs about $30 more, and it pushes you from a 5ms response to a much more gaming friendly 2ms; and you'd go from a 700:1 contrast ratio to 8000:1. I'm running last year's model of this monitor, which is almost identical, except that mine is a 3000:1 contrast ratio. I can't even begin to tell you how amazing this monitor is! I would never have believed that moving from a mid-range to a higher end monitor would make that much of a difference until I saw it with my own eyes. The colors are crisp and clean, color and shadow blending is infinitely better because of the contrast ratio, and there's no ghosting effect whatsoever while gaming. Not to mention that, if you'll be rocking a 4870X2, you'd be well off taking advantage of the higher resolution and extra viewing size.
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i'll be honest an say i think a quad core cpu would be better than the e8400, even a Q6600 since they're so cheep these days. After hearing so many people say ooo ahh, the E8400 can clock so much faster than a quad and games hardly use more than that anyway.... i got one, i clocked that baby to 4.2 (with water) i used it for a while and hated it. sure i could only get 3.5 with my quad (on air), but i noticed no difference at all from my quad on any game i played EXCEPT the games that actually utilized all the cores of the quad, those games were MUCH better with the quad than the dual, like enough to notice big time. Sure alot of "todays" games dont utilize 4 cores, though some do use 2, you wont notice a difference between 4.2 and 3.5, but you will notice when the future games that come out utilize 4 cores when you only have 2, no matter how fast they are, and you'll notice today when you play any game that will use 4 cores. I'm the kind of person who puts thier computers through hell and back, and then throws them back into hell before they even had a chance to cool down and i wouldnt recomend a dual core to anyone who had any inclination to overclock. if its going to stay stock speeds..... i think i'd still rather have a 2.66ghz quad than a 3.0ghz dual
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Quad Core Processor LGA775 Kentsfield 2.40GHZ 1066FSB 8MB Retail Box - DirectCanada

get a quad and you wont regret it. get a dual and you "might" not regret it... i'd go with the sure thing.

(and dont buy into any of that 45nm baloney, my Q6600 clocked to the exact same speed as my Q9450 and performed exactly the same at exactly the same temps)
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Old September 5, 2008, 06:53 AM
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Here is a little article on the debate of Quad vs Duo

CPU scaling in games with dual & quad core processors

The verdict is core speed vice # of cores. As tzetsin does point out, that does not future proof you when new games start using multi-core processors in a more efficient manner.

But, how far ahead do you future proof? Most enthusiast on these forums seem to upgrade monthly! I think I am a slightly lower ranked enthusiast though, so I usually buy a new machine every 2 years and recycle my old machine to the wife or the kids. With the new Intel i7 coming soon there may be no good reason to spend a lot of money right now, but spend some more next year when that chip becomes widely available and established.

It is the old story, if you wait, the prices come done. But if you don't buy now you don't get to enjoy all that comes with a smokin' rig! In the end you have to weigh the options and make your own decision.
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Old September 5, 2008, 06:54 AM
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I agree with cwestwell. You should get a better PSU if you have a 4870x2. Under load, the 4870x2 will eat a lot of power (ATI powerplay bug?). Also, a 4870x2 is usually worth it if you have a high res screen, around 30 inches or bigger. otherwise you'd just be running it at a lower res which the 4870 could handle. But I guess it gives you the option to get a bigger screen in the future.
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