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Old August 27, 2008, 04:13 PM
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Hi guys. I've been scouring the internet for awhile for a new computer and I'm feeling completely overwhelmed. Luckily I stumbled on this site (thank you Google!). I'd really appreciate any advice you guys want to give. I need pretty much every part and as I noticed in some of the other threads ordering the pieces from NCIX then doing price match and getting them to assemble it seems like a good option. Cheers!

P.S. I'd like an easily upgradeable system as well if possible.

1. What YOUR PC will be used for. That means what types of tasks you'll be performing.

--> Gaming (MMORPG more than single player games) first and foremost secondary activities movies and music.

2. What YOUR budget is. A price range is acceptable as long as it's not more than a 20% spread.

--> $1500-$1700 cdn.

3. What country YOU will be buying YOUR parts from.

--> Canada.

4. IF YOU have a brand preference. That means, are you an Intel-Fanboy, AMD-Fanboy, ATI-Fanboy, nVidia-Fanboy, Seagate-Fanboy, WD-Fanboy, etc, etc, etc, you get the picture.

--> I have no brand preference, just want the best fit.

5. If YOU intend on using any of YOUR current parts, and if so, what those parts are.

--> Not using any old parts.

6. IF YOU have searched and/or read similar threads.

--> I've looked on some threads in here as well as other sites and I'm feeling quite overwhelmed with all the different components and choices.

7. IF YOU plan on overclocking or run the system at default speeds.

--> Default I suppose since I'm not too confident with my computer skills.

8. WHEN do you plan to build it?

--> Within the next 3 months.
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Old August 27, 2008, 05:12 PM
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As a an old friend used to say "Don't read can't learn" ... you must have some kind of idea what system components you would like.

Building a new system from the ground up is like 80% research and 20% building ...

Start with the mobo since it is the foundation on which your system is built.
This is what you spend most of your time on like what chipset does what you want, do I want RAID, do I need firewire etc.

Do you want to overclock is another question.
This will help in the search for a cpu, memory and power supply.
Some are good overclockers and some are not.

Then of course is the video card or cards.
It takes a fair amount of reading before you can decide on a brand and model.

Then the power supply, hdd, case etc.

Skimping on the power supply is a newbie mistake.
Make sure to factor in overclocking and capacitor aging.

Ask specific questions, you may get more responses.

Have fun

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Old August 27, 2008, 05:51 PM
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Good advice from yamawho... are you going to build it yourself? If you don't feel you have the skill, are afraid to break something or just not that familiar you can have NCIX put together your parts for you for $50.00. Well worth the little cost if you don't want to do it yourself. A friend at work used this option and was very happy with the build and the burn it.

Another thing, now that I have read yamawho again, one more thing to consider. If you are going to buy ATI Vid, even if you don't crossfire now, get a crossfire board... if you buy NVidia then look for and SLI board. They are mutually exclusive in that you can run one ATI on an SLI board, but you can't run a 2nd ATI card. Same on a Crossfire board, you can run one NVidia board but not two.

Does your price range include the monitor? How big a monitor?

Get a good case!

So many choices eh?
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Old August 27, 2008, 06:30 PM
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Thanks for the responses so far. I'll try and provide a little more info.

Don't think I can afford more than a 24" monitor at the moment.
I don't want to build it myself the NCIX option seems easiest.
If push comes to shove I'd side with an Intel CPU and Nvidia GPU.
I prefer the setup be easy to upgrade/expand (want a case that will make that easy).
I'd like the system to be able to play MMORPG's at full vid settings (or as close as budget allows) with high FPS.
Lookin for atleast 4 gigs of RAM want to expand to 8 gigs eventually (not sure which kind is best anymore, last time I bought a computer it was the year 2000 heh.
I'm not sure what to do with the duo/quad choice (is it better to get a quad now so that I don't have to upgrade again so soon?)
I'm not planning on overclocking this rig.

Thanks!
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Old August 27, 2008, 06:33 PM
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mobo: p5q-pro
proc: intel e8400
gpu: evga 8800gt
ram: mushkin 2x2gb
os: Windows XP or Vista HP
optical: Pioneer DVR-216
hdd: seagate 250 or 500
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Old August 27, 2008, 08:06 PM
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Agreed on E8400.

for gaming, you dont need much more. altough the price differential between e8400 and e 8500 is snaller and since you dont want to Overclock, paying for the Mhz might be a good idea.

Dont know much about wich MMO you will be playing and their needs in graphic card power, but 8800 is an amazing value. you can get it really cheap now. you could even go for a used one....

Mobo wise, I dont have sugg. execpt if you dont oc, you dont need anything with bells and whistle.

Hard drive wise, a good 7200.11 in special would do the job.

And look for the Hx650 in special, great psu, great price.
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Old August 27, 2008, 08:19 PM
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Mobo: p5q pro - $140
CPU: Q9550 - $350 (pc village had a daily special on it for 320 or something, look out for those)
CPU heatsink: OCZ Vendetta 2 - $35
GPU: 4850 $160
RAM: Mushkin Redlines $95
HD: WD or Seagate 640gb $75
PSU: Corsair 620hx $120
Case: Antec 900 ($90)
DVD/RW: All around $25

Total: 1090 + ~$50 shipping + ~$50 RMA + tax (depends on province, ill assume ontario so 5%) = $1250

22" monitor = ~$250
24" monitor = ~$400 - however I would suggest a 4870 ($260) graphics card for 1920x1200 resolution
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Old August 27, 2008, 08:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tfran View Post
Mobo: p5q pro - $140
CPU: Q9550 - $350 (pc village had a daily special on it for 320 or something, look out for those)
CPU heatsink: OCZ Vendetta 2 - $35
GPU: 4850 $160
RAM: Mushkin Redlines $95
HD: WD or Seagate 640gb $75
PSU: Corsair 620hx $120
Case: Antec 900 ($90)
DVD/RW: All around $25

Total: 1090 + ~$50 shipping + ~$50 RMA + tax (depends on province, ill assume ontario so 5%) = $1250

22" monitor = ~$250
24" monitor = ~$400 - however I would suggest a 4870 ($260) graphics card for 1920x1200 resolution
tfran,

Its a gaming machine.. quad cores are useless for gaming.
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Old August 27, 2008, 09:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tfran View Post
Mobo: p5q pro - $140
CPU: Q9550 - $350 (pc village had a daily special on it for 320 or something, look out for those)
CPU heatsink: OCZ Vendetta 2 - $35
GPU: 4850 $160
RAM: Mushkin Redlines $95
HD: WD or Seagate 640gb $75
PSU: Corsair 620hx $120
Case: Antec 900 ($90)
DVD/RW: All around $25

Total: 1090 + ~$50 shipping + ~$50 RMA + tax (depends on province, ill assume ontario so 5%) = $1250

22" monitor = ~$250
24" monitor = ~$400 - however I would suggest a 4870 ($260) graphics card for 1920x1200 resolution
If you are getting NCIX to do the build go with a Cool Master CM 690. If you were doing the build you could get the 900 and punch a hole in the backplate to feed cables, but I doubt that NCIX would do that. Either way, the cases are both very good, though the 900 could be better with the hole in the backplate and a tad more room on the back side for cable management.
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Old August 27, 2008, 09:24 PM
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Are you set on a new system? Someone in Ontario has a used system up:

WTS - *Gaming Computer System*

The parts look good and the price seems fair to me. Just a thought.
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