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Old August 24, 2008, 03:41 PM
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Hi, I'm new to this site, still learning where things are and go. I've done alot of reading adn research on parts, but the more i read the more undecisive i become. So, i am asking for help from people who have actually built a PC, since this is my first time and i'm lost, also very excited. A friend told me about this site, cough GEOKILLA cough GEOKILLA. So this is what i plan my new pc to be used for, following geokilla's format >.>.

1. What will my PC be used for?

I will be using my PC for gaming mostly, and doing some hoework when i'm not gaming.

2. What is my budget?

I estimate about $1500-$2000. This includes Monitor, Mouse, Speakers, and Keyboard.

3. What country will i be buying my parts from?

I will buy all my computer parts in Canada.

4. Do i have a brand preferance?

Not really, but i've never tried the amd lines before no idea wut they are capable of, and i can't tell the difference between brands for certain items that are the same like Visiontech and Sapphire for a GPU.

5. Do i intend on using any current parts i posses?

No

6. If you have searched or read similiar threads?

I have read too much, and i am tired of reading.

7. Do i plan on overclocking?

Yes, i will plan to overclock the CPU for sure, don't know about other parts.

8. When do you plan to build it?

I am in no rush, i just want a good performing PC for games, ex: COD 4, future releases SC 2 and Diablo 3.

So far, i have only 3 items on the list and can't decide on the other parts, i am going Crossfire FTW, and i need to also know if i need vista in order to support crossfire the DX10 thing... o.O


So heres the list


Motherboard Asus P5Q Pro ATX LGA775 P45 DDR2 2PCI-E16 Crossfire 3PCI-E1 2PCI SATA2 Sound GBLAN eSATA Motherboard

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=30418&vpn=P5Q%20Pro&manufacture=ASUS

Price - $158.54CAD

CPU - Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Dual Core Processor LGA775 3.0GHZ Wolfdale 1333FSB 6MB Retail

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=27784&vpn=BX80570E8400&manufacture=I ntel

Price - $208.22

Video/GPU - Sapphire Radeon HD 4870 X2 Video Card 2GB GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 CrossFire (2) Dual Link DVI, HDTV


Sapphire Radeon HD 4870 X2 Video Card - 2GB GDDR5, PCI Express 2.0, CrossFire, (2) Dual Link DVI, HDTV 100251SR at TigerDirect.com


Price - $569.99 CAD


Ram aiming for 2 Gigs - 4 Gigs low latency

Power Supply Unit at least 750 watts

Hard Drive at least 500 gigs 7,200 rpm

Case no clue

Plz, give suggestions what to change, and anything im missing, and someone explain to me raid too lazy to search and read.
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Old August 24, 2008, 05:36 PM
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LOL RICK! GTFO! YOU'RE NOT WELCOME HERE! jks jks. =P

I'm not gonna calculate the pricing just cus I'm gonna be gay and stupid =P. MSN me later on....or get on MSN now =)

First of all, Visiontek, Diamond, etc. are graphic card vendors for AMD (ATI). I say go with Visiontek because they offer lifetime warranty.

Why do you need crossfire? You're already "Crossfiring" with your 4870 X2. Just stick with the 4870X2. I can guarantee you that you won't need to crossfire your 4870 X2 unless you're gaming at like 2560X1920 or a resolution like that.

Switch the E8400 to a Q6600.

For RAM, the Mushkins been recommended a lot, but I'll let others take care of that since I'm not that good with RAMS. However, anything that is DDR-800 with 4-4-4-12 timings should be fine.

You don't need 750 watts for your power supply unless you plan to game at 2560X1920. A Corsair HX620 is an excellent PSU. If you absoutely want 750 watts, get the Corsair TX750.

For the hard drive, get the Western Digital or the Seagate 640GB. Those use 320GB platters, and they're the fastest 7200RPM hard drives on the market right now.

Take a look at the Antec 900 case. However, take note that the 900 is a dust buster, so you need to vacuum it every month or so.

And you left out the DVD burner. I've had good experience with Samsung and LG so any of the newer burners from them should be fine for you. I'd recommend using a SATA burner just so there's less cables to fiddle with.

Since you're going to overclock, get the OCZ Vendetta 2 or the Xigmatek HDT S-1283. I recommend the OCZ Vendetta 2 since it's only a couple dollars more expensive once you price match Direct Canada.

For the monitor, I recommend the Acer AL2216WBD. It's an excellent multimedia monitor while keeping the costs low. It's around $170 at Canada Computers this week.

As for Vista, I myself don't like Vista's layout so I'd stick with XP. For me, I'd only go Vista if I needed DX 10. However, each person has a different opinion, so I'll leave that to you.
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Old August 24, 2008, 05:44 PM
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Lol, the gpu require about 600 watts already man.
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Old August 24, 2008, 07:26 PM
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I don't think he needs a Q6600 for gaming and homework since not multithreaded
Get a bolt-thru kit for any tower cpu cooler and MX-2
Then theres the Antec 900 and CM690 debate.....
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Old August 24, 2008, 07:45 PM
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I will chime in on the case debate. I have both cases, the Antec 900 and the CM 690 and after doing my transplant I like the CM 690. The Antec has the window and a bit more "oohh" factor but the inards of the CM 690 are clean and offer better cable management possiblities than the Antec even if you punch the hole in the Antec yourself. Get an extra fan to install in the top of the CM 690 for exhast, I took an old 120mm Antec fan and threw it in there... works nice.

You will probably be happy with either case, but if you can, have a look at them in person - or read a review or two, and that will help you make up your mind.

Last but not least, the CM 690 is a bit cheaper too!

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Old August 24, 2008, 07:55 PM
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cpu: intel e8400
mobo: biostar IP45
ram: mushkin ascent ram
gpu: GTX 260 or 280
hdd: seagate 250gb for OS drive ; 500+ for data drive
hsf: ocz vendetta 2 + bolt through + fan of choice
opt: pioneer dvr-216bk
cse: cm 690/590

This will let you play whatever the hell you want.
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Old August 24, 2008, 08:16 PM
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OK, here's my advice on picking parts for gaming systems.

1. PICK YOUR MONITOR FIRST. Are you going 24"? 22"? 19"? 27 or 30"(not likely with your budget)?

Once you've decided on monitor size, now you have a target resolution, build the system to smoke at that resolution. Lets assume 24" or 1920x1200 res. That 4870x2 is the fastest single card out there. If you were going to pick up a 19" and run 1440x900, I'd say you were nuts to spend the money on that GPU. Why? Most LCD's refresh at 60 FPS, you won't be able to see that you're getting 180 FPS on COD4.

2. Use pricecanada.com to search lowest prices. I just found your CPU for $174.

That said,
P5Q-pro - good P45 board. Consider the Biostar I45 as well, very good OC'er. But with your budget, look at some X48 boards as well.
E8400 - Consider the E8500, it's only $10-15 more
HSF - OCZ Vendetta 2
Ram - Mushkin Redlines or Ascents DDR2-1066
HDD - Grab a 640gb drive, they are fast due to the large platter size.
GPU - 19 or 22", single 4870 or dual 4850's. 24" and up - 4870x2.
PSU - Corsair, PCP&C, or Antec. Go modular if you have a window case.
Case - all personal preference. Make up your own mind.
KB, Mouse - Ditto.

Edit: wow, enaberif types quicker than me.
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Old August 25, 2008, 10:35 AM
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yay, people helping me XD
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