Go Back   Hardware Canucks > PC BUILDERS & TWEAKERS CORNER > New Builds

    
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old August 10, 2008, 05:54 PM
BALISTX's Avatar
Hall Of Fame
F@H
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Ottawa, ON
Posts: 2,005
Default Need Advice on Parts Selection.

I know I've asked tons of questions about builds before and as everyone can a test to choosing parts for an upgrade or even a new build can be very difficult. So at this point in time I call on my fellow HWC members for assistance with part selection for my Upgrade.

First I'm going to list the parts I have, the parts I need and then I'm going to list the requirements.

Parts I Have
  • Case: Coolermaster CM690
  • Video Card: EVGA GeForce 9600 GT
  • Hard Drive: Seagate 250GB SATAII
  • Optical Drive: LG 18X DVD±RW SATA
  • Memory: G.SKILL F2-PC2-8500 2GB 2X1GB DDR2-1066 CL5-5-5-15
  • LG L206WTQ-BF 20" LCD
Parts I Need:

  • CPU: Either AMD or Intel - must be AMD 5000+ BE or higher for AMD or must be at least a Core 2 Duo E7200+ for Intel
  • Motherboard: Black for very dark PCB - no Gigabyte DS3L board (I already had this board and it would be a shot in the foot to repurchase it again). Also must have 2x PCIE 16x slots.
  • HSF: non-push pin, leaning towards a TRUE 120 Black
  • PSU: 600 Watt or higher, must have long cables since PSU sits in bottom of case and will be routed.

Requirements
  • Will be using the PC to play games such as GRAW2, COD4, Assassians Creed, TF2, Far Cry 2 as well as graphic rendering using Adobe Fireworks and web design, and Internet use.
  • SLI or Crossfire (if I sell the 9600 GT and go with a Crossfire setup) optional. Mainly it's a want but probably not a need since I only have a 20" LCD monitor and will be gaming at 1680x1050 res and I'm guessing the performance gain would not be worth the price of a second card.
Optional Items
  • Colour Theme: Orange or Green. I'm still up in the air on this. My case is already orange but I have the black paint to repaint the case black. I can get 120mm case fans in either colour of LED's for $13 a piece
Budget: $500-$600

Thank you all in advance for your advice.
__________________
"Though I walk through the shadow of the Valley of Death I shall fear no evil as my C8 Carbine is locked and loaded."

Next Build: E5200 @ 3.6GHz (333x11) | Xigmatek HDT-RS1283 HSF | Biostar TP43D2-A7 | Mushkin Redlines DDR2-1000 @ DDR2-999 5-5-5-12
EVGA 9600 GT 512MB - 650MHz - 1800MHz - 1626MHz | Seagate 'Cuda 250GB 7200rpm SATA2 | Corsair VX550 | CM690 - Custom Atomic Orange Pearl


[Heatware]
[eBay]
[Rosetta]
BALISTX.com
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old August 10, 2008, 06:59 PM
JD's Avatar
JD JD is offline
Moderator
F@H
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Toronto, ON
Posts: 6,917

My System Specs

Default

ASUS P5Q-E/Deluxe motherboard perhaps? There's also the DFI LP Dk P45-T2RS which has black PCB and orange slots.

Maybe the Corsair TX 650W? Not sure what the cable lengths on it are though.

TRUE Black seems like a good choice since it sounds like your going for a "dark" theme.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old August 10, 2008, 07:24 PM
Hall Of Fame
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Calgary, AB
Posts: 3,344
Default

Second that Asus P5Q-E, seen some good reviews, the board design is a nice one, however I believe if you crossfire, cards will run at 8x not 16x. Its different if its not CF. If your going CF, then ur stuck at getting a X48 board, hek the performance difference btw P45 and X48 isn't all that big, ask SKY too. I'd say stay with P45, better chipset, few advantages over X48 too.

You have a 20" and you run a good large resolution, I think 2 4850's should be plentiful. Or you could stick with one 4870.

HSF: Boy you really don't want Push-Pin. You know the OCZ Vendetta 2, Xigmatek and Sunbeam Core CCF isn't all that bad either. Best of all is all 3 beat the TRUE 120.

600Watt PSU: PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad, not too sure, they should be a black color version out too.

CPU: Why not get an E8400, prices are dropping like crazy on it, really.

Only thing you can convince yourself is for the Push-Pin style of heatsink. Other than that you should like the other items.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old August 10, 2008, 07:39 PM
Killswitch's Avatar
Allstar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Sault Ste Marie, Ontario
Posts: 839

My System Specs

Default

Well the AMD 5000+ BE should handle anything you can throw at it. At 3.2GHz when OC'ed, you can't go wrong for $90. Then when AMD unleashes their 45nm Denebs you could upgrade to a rockin' quad. Since you have a bit of cash to play with, you might like this mobo. NCIX.com - Buy Sapphire AM2RD790 AMD 790FX CrossFireX Socket AM2+ 3PCI-E16 3PCI SATA GBLAN 1394 Motherboard - 52022-00-41R In Canada.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old August 10, 2008, 07:53 PM
MpG's Avatar
MpG MpG is offline
Hall Of Fame
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Kitchener, ON
Posts: 3,144
Default

You honestly don't need two GPU's for 1680x1050 resolution. A single strong card will handle things just fine, save you a little cash, and you eliminate a potential source of headache.
__________________
i7 2600K | ASUS Maximus IV GENE-Z | 580GTX | Corsair DDR3-2133
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old August 10, 2008, 09:54 PM
chrisk's Avatar
Folding Captain
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: GTA, Ontario
Posts: 7,406

My System Specs

Default

Corsair TX750 only a few bucks more with a little more headroom (and heck, its black and orange...although I think the orange labels would be facing the back of the case I believe in a bottom mounted case).

The Asus mentioned above is a good choice. I think the Gskill ram works well with their boards too.

Pick up a single 4750 later on after the X2 4750 comes out (prices may come down a little). Nvidia will be releasing some updated cards late August which may bring down the prices of many cards if you can wait and make do with your current card.
__________________
Fold for team #54196
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old August 11, 2008, 12:53 AM
BALISTX's Avatar
Hall Of Fame
F@H
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Ottawa, ON
Posts: 2,005
Default

I think I might get the Biostar TPower P45 board if it stays around $160 mark along with the E7200. I'll keep my 9600 GT for now until the HD 4850's or HD 4870s come down in price. Power Supply I'll probably pick up the Corsair TX750 since that will help future proof if I decide to run Crossfire sooner or later.
__________________
"Though I walk through the shadow of the Valley of Death I shall fear no evil as my C8 Carbine is locked and loaded."

Next Build: E5200 @ 3.6GHz (333x11) | Xigmatek HDT-RS1283 HSF | Biostar TP43D2-A7 | Mushkin Redlines DDR2-1000 @ DDR2-999 5-5-5-12
EVGA 9600 GT 512MB - 650MHz - 1800MHz - 1626MHz | Seagate 'Cuda 250GB 7200rpm SATA2 | Corsair VX550 | CM690 - Custom Atomic Orange Pearl


[Heatware]
[eBay]
[Rosetta]
BALISTX.com
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old August 11, 2008, 11:39 AM
Hall Of Fame
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Calgary, AB
Posts: 3,344
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BALISTX View Post
I think I might get the Biostar TPower P45 board if it stays around $160 mark along with the E7200. I'll keep my 9600 GT for now until the HD 4850's or HD 4870s come down in price. Power Supply I'll probably pick up the Corsair TX750 since that will help future proof if I decide to run Crossfire sooner or later.
Its a nice PSU, but the Pc Power & Cooling, you're missing something. DC has the Asus board for $168 round figure.. ASUS P5Q-E ATX LGA775 P45 DDR2 3PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 2PCI SATA2 Sound GBLAN eSATA 1394 Motherboard - DirectCanada

And if your looking for Biostar, DC has the board for $150 round figure, regular for $155.00
Biostar Tpower I45 ATX LGA775 P45 DDR2OC 2PCI-E 2PCI SATA2 RAID Sound GBLAN CrossFireX Motherboard - DirectCanada
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old August 11, 2008, 05:36 PM
BALISTX's Avatar
Hall Of Fame
F@H
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Ottawa, ON
Posts: 2,005
Default

So far this is what is looking like are the front runner for parts. Thoughts?

Asus P5Q Pro - $139
Intel Core 2 Duo E7200 - $127
Thermalright ULTRA-120 Black - $61
Corsair TX750W - $107
4 x Blackfire4 UV Orange LED 120mm Fans - $52 ($13 x 4)

$486

Later I will sell my 9600GT and acquire two HD 4850s or two HD 4870s for crossfire once they come down in price.
__________________
"Though I walk through the shadow of the Valley of Death I shall fear no evil as my C8 Carbine is locked and loaded."

Next Build: E5200 @ 3.6GHz (333x11) | Xigmatek HDT-RS1283 HSF | Biostar TP43D2-A7 | Mushkin Redlines DDR2-1000 @ DDR2-999 5-5-5-12
EVGA 9600 GT 512MB - 650MHz - 1800MHz - 1626MHz | Seagate 'Cuda 250GB 7200rpm SATA2 | Corsair VX550 | CM690 - Custom Atomic Orange Pearl


[Heatware]
[eBay]
[Rosetta]
BALISTX.com
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old August 11, 2008, 05:44 PM
BALISTX's Avatar
Hall Of Fame
F@H
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Ottawa, ON
Posts: 2,005
Default

Changes are I won't be able to afford the 4870's... how much of a performance increase between the 4850 and the 3870?
__________________
"Though I walk through the shadow of the Valley of Death I shall fear no evil as my C8 Carbine is locked and loaded."

Next Build: E5200 @ 3.6GHz (333x11) | Xigmatek HDT-RS1283 HSF | Biostar TP43D2-A7 | Mushkin Redlines DDR2-1000 @ DDR2-999 5-5-5-12
EVGA 9600 GT 512MB - 650MHz - 1800MHz - 1626MHz | Seagate 'Cuda 250GB 7200rpm SATA2 | Corsair VX550 | CM690 - Custom Atomic Orange Pearl


[Heatware]
[eBay]
[Rosetta]
BALISTX.com
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes