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Old July 7, 2008, 07:29 PM
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Yes nows a good time to upgrade. Although your kids will inherit a capable rig, especially if you slap in a $50 939 dualcore.

The 4870 is a no-brainer really but I would try and pair it with a P45 or X38/48 board.

Currently the P45 boards have a the best potential for great overclocks and running high FSB's. The Biostar T-power board looks pretty insane. I'd look at the P5Q-E and above (although they seem to be underpeforming) or the P45 gigabyte offerings. Theres also a $230 X48 gigabyte DS4 out soon. The other X48's from gigabyte /asus are expensive but capable. A little too rich for my blood but if you have the money then go for that rampage.

CPU wise the E8400 is only ~180 now as well. DDR2 ram is really cheap-I really like the Mushkin redline or XP modules, theres great support for tuning the modules to your board.
PSU-I have a silencer quad- on sale at NCIX sponsored deals its very very solid, good warranty.
CASE: Id go for one thats watercooling friendly down the road. I like the look of the cosmos personally.
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Old July 7, 2008, 07:33 PM
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Case is a matter of personal preference. 2 of the most popular midsize are the Antec 900 and Coolermaster CM690. Both are good for airflow.

Power supply, you'd probably want a minimum of 750w, maybe 850w-1000. Modular or not? If not, I highly recommend the PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750w. Corsair also makes excellent PSU's.

HSF: The best performing one tested on this site is the Xigmatech HDT-S1283, and it's cheap too. If you really want to liquid cool your cpu, I'd suggest hanging around the forums here and looking at the worklogs.

And your copy of Office 2000 should work. You may have to jump through a couple of hoops first.
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Old July 7, 2008, 07:46 PM
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Thanks for all this help so far guys...

Magictorch - (forgive me, my knowlege of motherboards is very weak) but is the ASAUS Ranpage not a x48? Or are you saying that there are cheaper ones I should look at.
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Old July 7, 2008, 07:52 PM
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The Rampage Formula is an expensive X48 board. If you're not going to overclock, look at a X38 or P45 board. The X48's are just higher clocking X38's.
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Old July 7, 2008, 07:55 PM
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Thanks for all this help so far guys...

Magictorch - (forgive me, my knowlege of motherboards is very weak) but is the ASAUS Ranpage not a x48? Or are you saying that there are cheaper ones I should look at.
I edited my post above while you were typing.

If you have the money and are perhaps not interested in an epic FSB the X48 Rampage is where I would buy too. Seems to have a great bios right out the gate and hits a high FSB-but you pay for it. However the DQ6 X48 is a brute too but hard to get and about the same price as the Rampage. Theres a good price match option at NCIX, I would definitely use it if you can as it can shave a lot off the price and let you consolidate the order that said if your not going to crossfire at very high resolutions with very powerful cards you might as well get a cheaper P45.
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The Rampage Formula is an expensive X48 board. If you're not going to overclock, look at a X38 or P45 board. The X48's are just higher clocking X38's.
ok, gotch-ya, thanks.
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Old July 7, 2008, 08:08 PM
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Case - if I go with the Antec 900, that has 3 fans, would I still need the additional HSF (Xigmatech HDT-S1283)?
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Everyones helping you out just fine but wanted to say, have you considered building it yourself?
There are lots of helpful members here that will gladly get you going on the basic's.
"Teach a man to fish" comes to mind.
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Aye nothings better then learning to build it yourself that way incase something goes wrong your not stuck but able to atleast troubleshoot and its a good learning experience.!
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ok.... I have a start on what I need here. Prices are from Canada Computers. Some items I have no idea about such as the case, power supply, fans, cooling ect. Who can fill in the blanks?

As far as cases go, not sure what I need. The nerd in me is attrackted to the ones with flashing lights and such, but on a practicle level, not sure what is needed. I don't even know if I need a mid, or full size case....

MOTHER BOARD: Asus Rampage Formula Socket 775 Intel X48 + ICH9R Chipset Dual-Channel Dual-channel DDR2 $305.00
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Socket LGA775, 3 GHz, 1333 MHz $215.00
GRAPHICS CARD: ATI Radeon HD 4870 $330.00
RAM: Corsair XMS2 TWIN2X4096-6400C5 G PC2-6400 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR2 $78.00
DVD BURNER: Pioneer DVR-215D(Black) SATA DVD-Writer 20x $31.00
HARD DRIVES: Western Digital Caviar (WD6400AAKS) 640GB SATAII 7200RPM 16MB Buffer $95.00 (x3)
MONITOR: ViewSonic G220fb CRT Have
POWER SUPPLY: ?
CASE: ?
KEYBOARD: Logitch iTouch Have
MOUSE: Microsoft Intellmouse Explorer 3.0 Have
SOUND CARD: ?
SPEAKERS: Logitech Z-5300E Speakers 5.1 280W RMS 560W THX Have
FAN: ?
OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium 64-Bit (OEM) $127.00


Here is another question - will I be able to Run my old version of Office 2000 under vista?
I'd get PC2-8000/8500 RAM if I was you. Maybe one of these?
Mushkin XP2-8500 DDR2-1066 4GB (2x2GB)
Corsair XMS2 Dominator TWIN2X4096-8500C5DF
OCZ (OCZ2RPR10664GK) DDR2 PC2-8500 1066 MHz Reaper HPC

Power supply: Corsair TX 750W or PC Power and Cooling 750W should do.

Case: Anything that you like really. Mid-tower would be fine, though get a full tower if you want more room to work in. Post a link to the ones you like and we can give you feedback.

Sound Card: I'd say an ASUS Xonar since they have a best sound quality, though lack the hardware acceleration the X-Fi has. However EAX doesn't really work in Vista anyways so it's not too big a deal.

Fan: I'm assuming you mean heatsink? If so then one of these:
OCZ Vendetta 2
XIGMATEK HDT-S1283

As for Office 2000 working, it might but no guarantee.

EDIT: Wow, so many posts while I wrote this...

EDIT 2: Oh, didn't notice you aren't overclocking. If that's the case, no sense in getting the Rampage Formula. It has a bunch of "fluff" you aren't going to use. I'd suggest the ASUS P5Q-E or P5Q-Deluxe or Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3R then.

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