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Old June 26, 2008, 06:41 AM
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Alright, im making a new rig to satisfy my gaming needs. I have a budget around 1300$. I plan to buy all my parts form ncix.com, but if anyone finds a better deal somewhere else then thank you. Heres what im looking at for .. my graphics card that i want will be the Visiontek Radeon HD 4850 512MB (http://ncix.com/products/index.php?s...ture=VISIONTEK). I'm also looking for a 4GB RAM, not really good at picking ram (last one i picked lasted a day..). Also if you can find some 2GB RAM thats really good then that will be helpful. For the Case i want it to be quiet enough so i won't hear it playing games, but also i want it to run cool enough (i heard the 4850 reaches 80-90). I Prefer a Phenom CPU, but if anyone finds a good deal on a intel quad i'll take it. For the motherboard i don't really need crossfire, it just need to be reliable and not cost 1000$. Lastly the cooling, i don't think there is a "actual" cooling for the 4850, but if anyone can correct me then go ahead.

Alright if anyone is kind enough to help me then you have my thanks! (ps. I can go maybe 100-200 above 1300)

Here a list of things i picked out:

Case:
Antec P182 ATX Black Mid Tower Case
Graphics Card:Visiontek Radeon HD 4850 512MB
Power supply:Corsair TX650W 650W ATX 12V 52A 24PIN ATX Power Supply Active PFC 120MM Fan
RAM: G.SKILL F2-8000CL5D-4GBPI Pi PC2-8000 4GB 2X2GB DDR2-1000 CL5-5-5-15 240PIN Dual Channel Memory Kit
CPU:Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Dual Core Processor LGA775 3.0GHZ Wolfdale 1333FSB 6MB Retail(if a quad is cheaper then this, then i'll take it)
Hard drive:Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 3.5IN 500GB
Motherboard:Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3L ATX LGA775 P35 1333FSB 1PCI-E16 3PCI-E1 3PCI SATA2 Sound GBLAN Motherboard
Cooling:Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro LGA775
Wireless:Linksys WMP54G Wireless PCI Adapter 54MBPS 802.11G



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Old June 26, 2008, 07:23 AM
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If you have any parts already picked out then I would put those on your list. My strengths isn't picking computer parts but I'll help any way I can .Look around for lower prices because when you find them you can price match with ncix and they will give you the lower price

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Couple suggestions:
Heatsink: Get the Xigmatek as it performs better
Power Supply: Corsair TX650W bit cheaper and single rail with 52A so it's most likely a much better PSU than the Antec one
RAM: G.SKILL F2-8000CL5D-4GBPI Pi PC2-8000 4GB 2X2GB only $10 more than what you linked, plus you'll get the extra headroom in case you do overclock at some point
CPU: Either the E8400 or Q6600. I wouldn't buy a 65nm dual-core at this time.

And make sure you use Price Canada to price match everything you can.
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Old June 26, 2008, 08:30 AM
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Price match with Direct Canada prices. Since it's a sister company, they almost always accept it.

I don't think a quad core will give you much better gaming experience. A good dual core like the C2D E8400 with the Wolfdale core is a really good choice and is only 187$ on Direct Canada (Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Dual Core Processor LGA775 3.0GHZ Wolfdale 1333FSB 6MB Retail - DirectCanada).

For cpu cooler, the Freezer 7 pro is a good choice. I have the same but the AMD version and it works really cool and silent.

For the motherboard, I've heard that the Gigabyte boards based on intel chipsets offer better price/function/quality ratio than many others. You could take a look for reviews about some of their boards and compare with the one you chose.

For the video card, I've heard that the after market coolers made for the 38XX could fit on them. You may take a look on cooler manufacturers to look if they add 48XX compatibility on the specs of their products.

I'm not a big fan of antec products (my own opinion). Ok for the case since you could not really get issues but for the PSU ... maybe you could take a look to corsair PSU's, there is this one (Corsair TX750W 750W ATX 12V 60A 24PIN ATX Power Supply Active PFC 120MM Fan - DirectCanada) wich is really affordable or you could get this one (Corsair CMPSU-620HX 620W ATX Triple 12V 50A 24PIN ATX Modular Power Supply 120MM Fan 2X PCI-E - DirectCanada) wich is modular and really worth his price. If you don't plan to upgrade soon for a much more big system (Quad + Crossfire for exemple), something a bit more conservative could be enough too like this one (Silverstone Strider ST50F 500W ATX12V 24PIN Power Supply W/120MM Fan Active PFC - DirectCanada) wich is the one I have. It is well reviewed and I'm completely satisfied.

You could also take your order on Direct Canada. I know there's many threads about DC problems, but if you call your credit card company BEFORE taking the order (don't use Paypal, it's not working), you may have your stock rapidly for free shipping. And if you got problems, you can send a private message to DC_Support from this forum and he will help you within 1 business day. I've ordered there many times and had only one issue and DC_Support helped me well.

Don't forget that with 4GB of ram, you will need a 64Bit OS or only 3.25 GB will be recognised. And if you plan to run Xp, I think 2GB could be enough. I have 2 GB and never had problems.

Have fun with your new system.

EDIT : the tx650w proposed by jdrom17 is a good choice too. I've not see it before posting .
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Thank you both Jdrom17 and Leclerc, i might go with the silverstone cause i don't plan to do anything serious right now (crossfire/sli). Also thanks for the directcanada, i been hearing a lot of rumors that its a fake site and nothing gets shipped out, but now im certainly convinced that id go with directcanada (sometimes ncix cause they got some stuff directcanada doesn't have). I will probbally use vista since i got a free buisness version since my laptop came with it. i might try those 38xx coolers out later.


Also im getting this keyboard and mouse (the ones i have right now are too..how should i say this..crappy?)

Logitech G5 Laser Gaming Mouse 2000DPI USB Blue Black ENG/FR
Logitech Wave Keyboard Black USB with Vista Media Keys

has anyone had experience with these products?

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Old June 26, 2008, 09:58 AM
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The issue I got from DC was that my credit card company had refused the payment and they called me back to confirm that I take this order. The problem is that after they call you, you have to contact DC by yourself to confirm that they can proceed the payment but they are usually unreachable by phone or email. The only way is to send a PM to DC_Support from this forum. So, like I said before, I recommend you to call your credit card company just to say them that you will take an order on DirectCanada Computer. This way, they should proceed the payment without any issue.

For your Vista liscence from your laptop, I'm not sure you will be able to install it on a desktop. It cost nothing to try it anyway, but remember that only a bit more of 3GB of your 4GB ram will be recognise, so don't be surprised if your system info is not showing the 4GB.
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Alright sure, thanks for the help Leclerc and the others, i hope my rig will turn out good. Also has anyone ever tried the 4850? all i want to know is the temps and if i should look out for any compatibly issues? Is this motherboard good enough to handle what im possibly buying? http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...e&promoid=1058

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Alright sure, thanks for the help Leclerc and the others, i hope my rig will turn out good. Also has anyone ever tried the 4850? all i want to know is the temps and if i should look out for any compatibly issues? Is this motherboard good enough to handle what im possibly buying? http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...e&promoid=1058
That motherboard would suffice, though it does not have RAID if you care.
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Old June 26, 2008, 02:38 PM
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Maybe you could consider this board
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...cture=Gigabyte

Newer chipset, real dual bios, support pci express 2.0.

But the P35 model will handle your built for sure but this one is a bit better.
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