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Old November 8, 2013, 07:42 AM
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Hi guys,

It's PC building time! With the new consoles coming out (and Battlefield 4 confirming my suspicions) I'm ready to drop some cash to upgrade some of my parts. Current build:

CPU: Intel i7 950 @ stock (never overclocked before but I'm willing to try)
Mobo: Asus Sabretooth X58
GPU: GTX 470
PSU: PC Power & Cooling Turbo Cool 860W
RAM: 3x4GB GSKILL @1866Mghz
HDD: 120gb OCZ Vertex 3 (for Windows), 3TB for Steam and games
Extras: HT Striker 7.1, Windows 8

Right off the bat, I'm thinking of grabbing a GTX 780 (500$ and 3 free games seem like a decent deal to me). Thoughts?
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Old November 8, 2013, 08:00 AM
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Your biggest bottleneck for gaming is hands down the GPU. A 780 will be a massive improvement for you. I would say a 770 or 780 (depending on what you want to spend), or play the waiting game for non-reference coolers on an amd R9 290. You could then grab a decent aftermarket cooler for your CPU (if you don't have one already), and OC a bit....even if its only a mild one. Do that and call it a day. Newer CPU are "better" for gaming fps, but I don't know that you would find much of a change. The 780 is a good deal (I use that term loosly, since it is still expensive), if you will actually play the games.
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Old November 8, 2013, 08:21 AM
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That cpu will bottleneck a 780 a bit. Do what Bond says and keep your eye out here for a ivy/haswell cpu mobo.
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With that mobo you should easily hit 4 GHz, I have the same one and my Xeon L5639 is doing 3.06 GHz without breaking a sweat. At 4GHz you don't need a new CPU. The GTX470 should still be good but it depends how much eye candy you want to turn on, if it has to be changed I would wait a bit for the aftermarket coolers for the 290X.
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Old November 8, 2013, 09:18 AM
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As stated the CPU is fine if you overclock but being of that generation it may run a tad warm.

The GTX 470 was never a good card.. The 480 on the other hand was. Overclocking the CPU and updating that GPU will play a HUGE role
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I'd go with ATI if BF4 is your main concern.
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Old November 8, 2013, 05:28 PM
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I think saying "that cpu will bottleneck your gpu" is a misnomer. For many games (like bioshock infinite) the cpu doesn't have to be much at all, it just has to be "good enough".

EXAMPLE: i7 920 fps: 67
i7 3960 fps: 70
BioShock Infinite Performance, Benchmarked > CPU Performance - TechSpot

Other games like skyrim are cpu bound. But in general, most new games are gpu bound.

So do yourself a favour and save some money; put the big part of your gaming rig budget (if not 100% for you) into a new GPU.

EDIT: Battlefield 4 Benchmarked: Graphics & CPU Performance > Benchmarks: CPU Performance - TechSpot

3fps diff between my 8150 and a 4960x in bf4.
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Old November 9, 2013, 12:03 AM
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Hi guys!

Thanks for the great advice :)

Okay, hanging on to the CPU and mobo for a few more years. Will use the money to invest in a 780 (the 3 included games is a pretty good deal imo). I'll try to overclock the cpu as well... I found a few guides online.
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