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sswilson October 28, 2013 08:13 AM

m-ITX in a M350?
 
Looking to put together an m-ITX in an M350 so that I can make use of my current Dram and SSD as opposed to having to purchase an mSata drive and sodimm memory if I were to pick up a nuc or brix. Just light use so an i3 would probably work, but more power at a reasonable price is fine as well. As you can see by the links so far I'm leaning strongly towards an FM2 just for the added GFX horsepower.

Mini-Box M350 Universal mITX Computer Case Black 1X2.5INT Works With Pico PSU - Black


Does anybody have any experience with these cases as to recommended motherboards and which stock cpu HSFs will fit? They show a stock intel in there, but I suspect that's an old 775.

So far the plan is for a 150W pico PSU, but again I'm open to suggestions.

edit: Maybe this puppy with an FM2 proc? Says it's a total of 37mm, and the PP price is decent.

Noctua NH-L9a AM2 AM3 FM1 FM2 Low Profile Heatsink Cooler w/ Slim NF-A9x14 92MM PWM Fan

edit2: Looking at this MB over at TD.... (NCIX's FM2 mitx selection bites!!! ;) )

Buy the Zotac A55-ITX WiFi Motherboard at TigerDirect.ca

And this proc because it's the highest end 65W A series... (just noticed it's an a8..... )

AMD A8-6500 Richland 4.1GHZ APU Socket FM2 Quad Core 4MB 65W Processor Retail Box

sswilson October 28, 2013 01:48 PM

Anybody???? ;)

I'm a little bit concerned about using a pico PSU as most of what I've read suggests that it'll be awfully close to the max of a 150W PSU. That said.... I just sold off a pile of hardware locally and I'm itching to get some new shiny stuff..... ;)

3.0charlie October 28, 2013 03:30 PM

Light use? As in Quad core? ;-)

If really light use, I'd stick to an i3 and the stock Intel fan (by the picture, looks like a slim stock HSF, not the tall 775ers). I've found that the stock HSF is 50mm, so the Noctua would fit (nice find, actually). Otherwise, I've looked at that case before, and for thermals... well, it's small. Really crammed with barely no airflow. Using the Noctua HSF on the AMD quad may be acceptable.

bonanza2000 October 28, 2013 03:48 PM

I built four of these for my office and they work great. Here's the thread with pictures:
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...tml#post690190

I used a Rosewill RCX-Z775-LP low profile CPU cooler and it seems to work fine.
I used an i3 and it seems fine for office work.

I think two big things is to figure out where the 24 pin is on the motherboard and if it puts the power adapter thing toward the inside or outside of the board. I have some pictures showing how the motherboard I chose which puts the wires toward the case side and thus makes the case really hard to close. I managed to make it work but you should be aware of it. See third picture. It would be better if the mother board puts the wires toward the interior of the board.

The other thing is depending on where your motherboard has the pins to connect the power switch, power LED lights, etc., the wire they give you with the case may not be long enough to get there and you may have to splice a wire. I kind of show it in post #6.

sswilson October 28, 2013 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 3.0charlie (Post 737310)
Light use? As in Quad core? ;-)

If really light use, I'd stick to an i3 and the stock Intel fan (by the picture, looks like a slim stock HSF, not the tall 775ers). I've found that the stock HSF is 50mm, so the Noctua would fit (nice find, actually). Otherwise, I've looked at that case before, and for thermals... well, it's small. Really crammed with barely no airflow. Using the Noctua HSF on the AMD quad may be acceptable.

Heh... everything is light use when it comes to something that won't be overclocked.... :)

By light use, I guess I should have said that I don't intend to try playing BF4 with it....

I'm really inclined to give this a try with the understanding that I might end up ditching the case/pica PSU in favour of something that I can stick a 500W CX into (got one sitting here unopened).

Quote:

Originally Posted by bonanza2000 (Post 737313)
I build four for my office and they work great. Here's the thread with pictures


More to follow???? :)

sswilson October 28, 2013 03:56 PM

Heh... I see the link now. Thanks for that.

So no problems at all with running them with that PSU and/or thermals? That proc is a 55W vice the 65W on the AMD I'm looking at so a bit more strain on the PSU and heat into the case........


edit: I'm actually a bit surprised that there isn't more info out there WRT power draw on these A series systems... I've found a bit, but most of it seems to be more concerned with full sized systems w/ dedicated graphics as opposed to mitx IGP systems. I would have thought that mitx would have been the main use behind the a series as opposed to a replacement for standard desktop procs.

bonanza2000 October 28, 2013 04:04 PM

Temps run 38-42 C all day long with the i3. Not sure about the AMD processor.

sswilson October 28, 2013 04:05 PM

I'm also not adverse to the idea of strapping a low speed 120mm w/ fan guard onto the top of it...... ;)

3.0charlie October 28, 2013 04:07 PM

And if you ever decide to the Intel route, I have an unused Z77N-Wifi sitting right next to me.... :whistle:

bonanza2000 October 28, 2013 04:16 PM

I added a 40 mm fan to the case but it is noisy and I am not sure it makes any real difference in cooling.


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