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Old October 1, 2013, 07:12 AM
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I am trying to build a gaming pc for a teen-ager. Budget is about $1000, the lower the better. He is normally a MAC user, but wants to play pc games. He has XBOX 360. I'll build it with him so he will learn something in the process. I'll overclock it but not to the max. He is allowed to play some of the M-rated games such as Crysis 3.

Here is what I have come up so far:
Corsair Carbide 200R or Cooler Master Storm Scout 2 Advanced Computer Case. $98 for the CM and $50 for Corsair. I'll let him choose the case.
Gigabyte Z87X-D3H ATX LGA1150 $120
Intel Core i5 4670K Unlocked Haswell Quad Core 3.4GHZ Processor LGA1150 6MB Free game-final fantasy $245
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo Direct Touch 4 Heatpipe Heatsink $30
GSkill Sniper F3-14900CL9D-8GBSR DDR3-1866 - already own
Gigabyte Radeon HD 7950 Windforce 900MHZ 3GB 5GHZ GDDR5 $225
Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB SATA3 $90
Samsung SH-224DB 24X SATA DVD Writer $18
Logitech MK710 Wireless Desktop LCD Display Keyboard & Sculpted Mouse w/ HYPER-FAST Scrolling USB $80
BenQ GW2255 21.5IN Widescreen LED A-MVA Monitor 1920x1080 20M:1 DVI-D Black $120
MS Windows 8 OEM $100
Total comes to $1161 incl HST.

SSD is out for now, due to budget. Please comment especially on the monitor and the keyboard/mouse. Are they appropriate for gaming. What do you recommend for a low cost IPS monitor?
The Gigabyte mobo is the cheapest Z87 around, is it ok for a gaming rig? Any other suggestions?

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What kind of mac has he got at the mo? Dual boot it and run the games on that?

Apart from that wait for the new AMD's... will at least see price-drops and they seem to be well priced anyway.
Need dvd for? drop it unless he uses it allot..
Fancy keyboard not needed pick up something for $5.
Need a 1 TB HDD? I would be tempted to drop it totally for a 120GB SSD and then add something small and cheap from the other savings above.
Needs the processing power right away? You drop the cooler and i5 for something cheaper(i3 or lower i5), then in a couple of years you can do a second-hand chip and cooler for a drop in upgrade.. and then OC too if needed?

Maybe think about making a hackintosh? Then he can have everything on one?
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That platform would be a lot cheaper if you wouldn't include overclocking. You could get a highly clocked Ivy Bridge Core i3 like i3220 a nice B75 mobo and with the money difference you would get a 128GB SSD.
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Thanks MARSTG and Dzzope for your input.
Yes, I'll wait a little while for AMD proice drop. This is likely a Christmas present. Dropping the 1 TB is well worth considering.
He is using a MAC Air laptop which I do not know if it can dual boot or fast enough to run games like Crysis 3.

One question for now: If I use i3 3220 with no OC, will it keep up with AMD HD7950? and would I be able to get 60 FPS or just 30 FPS?

The B75M mobo's are mATX. The Gigabyte B75M has DX11. So can it play games like Crysis 3 using on board video, and what FPS can I expect?

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I had Core i3 3225 with HD Graphics 4000 : it was running NFSHP 2010 at 1280x720 with low details on the integrated graphics but cranking any more details and it was slowing down to it's knees. However when running on a Radeon HD 5770 it was doing 60FPS with all details at max at 1920x1080. It will keep up just fine with a 7950 as well. If you want to be sure, you could also get the highest clocked i3 from Haswell generation. Forget the integrated graphics, just run it on the Radeon.

Core i3 IB performance review here Roundup: Intel Core i3 Processors with Ivy Bridge Microarchitecture. Page 5 - X-bit labs
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FX 8320 - $159
Asus sabertooth 990FX R2.0 AM3+ + - $179
Toshiba 2TB hard drive - $84
Corsair vengeance 8GB (2X4GB) - $93
Cooler master 600w power supply - $ 64
Corsair 200r carbide serious -$59
Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 3GB - $309

Total - $947.
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FX 8320 - $159
Asus sabertooth 990FX R2.0 AM3+ + - $179
Toshiba 2TB hard drive - $84
Corsair vengeance 8GB (2X4GB) - $93
Cooler master 600w power supply - $ 64
Corsair 200r carbide serious -$59
Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 3GB - $309

Total - $947.
The Sabertooth is unnecessary. Substitute it with an M5A97 ($99) and use the saved money to buy an SSD.
Ditch the Coolermaster powersupply and get a good 600W from the likes of Corsair or Antec.

Otherwise looks good.
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The Sabertooth is unnecessary. Substitute it with an M5A97 ($99) and use the saved money to buy an SSD.
Ditch the Coolermaster powersupply and get a good 600W from the likes of Corsair or Antec.

Otherwise looks good.

I selected the mobo based on overclock ability as it's the amd socket. but if the op isn't looking to overclock then your right its completely unnecessary , as for the power supply your right it's not something you wanna cheap out on i made that mistake before quite liked the look of sparks flying from the mesh on my case .
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I selected the mobo based on overclock ability as it's the amd socket. but if the op isn't looking to overclock then your right its completely unnecessary , as for the power supply your right it's not something you wanna cheap out on i made that mistake before quite liked the look of sparks flying from the mesh on my case .
Mid-range motherboards are perfectly capable of overclocking. I have an M5A97 holding a 1Ghz overclock on a 1055T for about a year now without a single problem. These high end boards are just margin makers for the manufacturers. Nice to have if you can afford them, but completely unnecessary.
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On the Coolermaster PSU, they do a very good and cheap (if a little loud) Gold rated PSU that beats out some platinum rated ones... you just have to be careful which one you choose.

This is true of most brands that are just re-badges...
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