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Old October 2, 2013, 02:00 PM
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Thank you all for your input. Based on them I have now 2 systems under consideration:

Intel based, no overclock
Corsair Carbide 200R $55
Gigabyte Z87X-D3H ATX LGA1150 $120
Intel Core i3 4340 Haswell Dual Core 3.6GHZ Processor LGA1150 $170
GSkill Sniper F3-14900CL9D-8GBSR DDR3-1866 - already own
Gigabyte Radeon HD 7950 Windforce 900MHZ 3GB 5GHZ GDDR5 $225
Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB SATA3 $90
Samsung SH-224DB 24X SATA DVD Writer $18
Logitech MK710 Wireless Desktop LCD Display Keyboard & Sculpted Mouse w/ HYPER-FAST Scrolling USB $80
BenQ GW2255 21.5IN Widescreen LED A-MVA Monitor 1920x1080 20M:1 DVI-D Black $120
MS Windows 8 OEM $100
Total comes to $1105 incl HST.

AMD based, can be overclocked:
M5A97 $99
FX-8320 $159
Direct Touch 4 Heatpipe Cooler Master Hyper 212 EvoHeatsink $30
Everything else is the same as intel system
Total $1102


I made a miscalculation on my original post, The i5 4670k with oc comes to $1223.
Still no money left for a 120GB SSD. Maybe I'll have to increase my budget a bit.
Maybe I'll use a cheap keyboard/mouse combo and save some.
Can a decent game be played on a LCD TV which he is using for XBOX 360 now?

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Old October 2, 2013, 02:14 PM
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You don't need the aftermarket cooler on the AMD system yet. The 8320 will be just fine running at stock speeds for a while. The advantage is it has the option of being overclocked down the road once money is found for a nice cooler.

Your addition is wrong, too.

The 4340 system totals to $978, while the AMD system totals to $946 without a cooler, and $976 with a cooler.
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My Bad. I used the sigma function of the spreadsheet, and I did not notice that it missed out the $55 case.
Thanks.
I'll do more reading on the ADM configuration. I have used AMD before although have now migrated to Intel.
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Thank you all for your input again. It has been very helpful. It seems that the AMD FX 8320 has a better price/performance ratio. So, I am leaning towards it for now, unless there are some irresistible i5/i3 deals. I'll be watching for sales and do price matching,etc. Hopefully will be able to built it during the Christmas holiday period.

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I found a Gigabyte board that is a little cheaper
Gigabyte 970A-D3P AMD970 ATX AM3+ DDR 2PCI-E16 3PCI-E1 2PCI RAID SATA3 USB3.0 CrossFireX Motherboard $75


Gigabyte 970A-D3P AMD970 ATX AM3+ DDR 2PCI-E16 3PCI-E1 2PCI RAID SATA3 USB3.0 CrossFireX Motherboard

How does it compare to M5A97? I am using a Gigabyte mobo now, and rather like the dual bios setup. What is your opinion?

Also, I have done oc on a single core AMD (back in 2004). I am now on Intel i7 920 which I find quite simple to oc. Is there a OC guide for FX8320? I have to re-learn the FSB etc.
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Make no firm choices till your ready to build :)

If you get to the states at all, you can walk into a microcentre(?? I think) and they usually have the i5 for $100 less than anywhere else as a loss leader.. so that could bring it back into contention.
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@great_big_abyss:
I found a Gigabyte board that is a little cheaper
Gigabyte 970A-D3P AMD970 ATX AM3+ DDR 2PCI-E16 3PCI-E1 2PCI RAID SATA3 USB3.0 CrossFireX Motherboard $75


Gigabyte 970A-D3P AMD970 ATX AM3+ DDR 2PCI-E16 3PCI-E1 2PCI RAID SATA3 USB3.0 CrossFireX Motherboard

How does it compare to M5A97? I am using a Gigabyte mobo now, and rather like the dual bios setup. What is your opinion?

Also, I have done oc on a single core AMD (back in 2004). I am now on Intel i7 920 which I find quite simple to oc. Is there a OC guide for FX8320? I have to re-learn the FSB etc.
Honestly i can't attest to the quality of the Gigabyte board. I'm sure it's fine. Certainly it's the same chipset as the M5A97, so it will have most of the same features. As to overclocking ability, I can only speak about the M5A97 in this case, as I have experience overclocking on that board vs the Gigabyte. See if you can find some reviews (both professional and user) and see what they say about overclocking.

When it comes to overclocking the 8320, all you should have to do is up the multiplier, increase to voltage when you encounter instability, and monitor temps. You shouldn't have to mess with the FSB unless you really want to go for a monster overclock and really fine tune things. Depending on your chip, you should be able to get between 500MHz to 1Ghz overclock. don't expect to hit 5Ghz very easily on an 8320.
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I personally love ASUS products.
You can change your monitor
and my personal preference is NVIDIA
as for the hard drive you can perhaps go 650Gb and get a 120$ SSD?
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Honestly i can't attest to the quality of the Gigabyte board. I'm sure it's fine. Certainly it's the same chipset as the M5A97, so it will have most of the same features. As to overclocking ability, I can only speak about the M5A97 in this case, as I have experience overclocking on that board vs the Gigabyte. See if you can find some reviews (both professional and user) and see what they say about overclocking.

When it comes to overclocking the 8320, all you should have to do is up the multiplier, increase to voltage when you encounter instability, and monitor temps. You shouldn't have to mess with the FSB unless you really want to go for a monster overclock and really fine tune things. Depending on your chip, you should be able to get between 500MHz to 1Ghz overclock. don't expect to hit 5Ghz very easily on an 8320.
I'm preferential to Asus, but I've been using more Gigabyte boards lately and haven't had any issues with them yet. A board is a board now days for the most part. Both boards have all solid state caps so you shouldn't have to worry about anything there.

the expansion slot layout is identical on both, even the rear ports are almost all the same. I personally would give that gigabyte board a try, has all the same features and components pretty much except it saves you a few $.
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Thanks for all input. I am watching sales events now and decide based on price.
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I have finally built the system. I have chosen the AMD route, FX 8320/Asus M5A970. I first worry about overclocking since I have not touched or read about AMD overclocking for about 10 years. But, Asus made it so easy (probably every manufacturers now) with their BIOS. I just up the multi and let it adjust the voltages. Same with the DIMM's.
Thank you all for your input and help.
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