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Old August 7, 2013, 08:06 PM
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Post Looking for a Home Computer of $400-600

Hello I am looking for Config setups I could use for basic computing(youtube, social, Downloading Movies and maybe playing some games(CounterStrike, Battlefield 3-4 ((medium settings)) if affordable.

Maybe omit the BattleField 3-4 compatibility to keep it cheaper.

Also is getting a mATX setup possible with that price range?

If you could find Monitor and Keyboard/mouse that will fit the range also will be nice.(will buy it sep

Here's what i came up with:
MSI 760GM-P23 (FX) mATX AMD 760G AM3+ DDR3 1PCI-E16 1PCI-E1 1PCI DVI VGA SATA2 USB2.0 Motherboard $55

Kingston SSDNow V300 60GB 2.5in SATA3 LSI SandForce Solid State Disk Flash Drive SSD $73

XFX 550W PRO550W Core Edition Single Rail ATX 12V 44A 24PIN ATX Power Supply 80PLUS Bronze 70

AMD FX-6300 Six Core Processor Socket AM3+ 3.5GHZ 14MB 95W Retail Box $119


Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM SATA3 64MB Cache 3.5in Internal Hard Drive $104

ASUS Radeon HD 7750 V2 820MHZ 1GB 4.6GHZ GDDR5 DVI HDMI DisplayPort PCI-E Video Card $99

Corsair XMS3 CMX8GX3M2A1600C9 8GB 2X4GB DDR3-1600 CL9-9-9-24 240PIN Core i5 i7 AMD Memory Kit $78

Cooler Master N200 mATX / mITX Tower Case Black 1X5.25 3X3.5 4X2.5 USB3.0 *No PSU* $52



AND yes I went over my own limit which is why i Need help. $650
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Old August 7, 2013, 11:43 PM
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For one, get rid off the Kingston SSD. Use NCIX's Pricematch; don't get deceived by the Mail-in rebait prices, look at the actual prices:

Mobo: MSI 760GM-P23 (FX) mATX AMD 760G AM3+ DDR3 1PCI-E16 1PCI-E1 1PCI DVI VGA SATA2 USB2.0 Motherboard - DirectCanada @ 50.62
PSU: XFX 550W PRO550W Core Edition Single Rail ATX 12V 44A 24PIN ATX Power Supply 80PLUS Bronze - DirectCanada @ 63.10
CPU: NCIX has the cheapest FX-6300
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM SATA3 64MB Cache 3.5in Internal Hard Drive - DirectCanada @ 89.79
GPU: HD7750-1GD5-V2 from ASUS - ASUS - Video Cards - Computer Hardware - Computer Parts - - Home Computer Parts, Computer Components, low price computer at Hookbag @ 99.98
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL PC3-12800 4GB 2X2GB DDR3-1600 CL9-9-9-24 Core i5 1.5V Memory Kit (only 4GB of RAM but if you are budget restricted, 4 is enough) @ 43.44 NCIX price, so no need to pricematch
Case: Buy COOLERMASTER [NSE-200-KKN1] Cooler Master N200 mATX / mITX Tower Case Black 1X5.25 3X3.5 4X2.5 USB3.0 *No PSU* @ 43.46

Total: $510+Government Slave Tax+Shipping+Shipping Insurance

Plus, do you already have a (legit) copy of an OS?
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Old August 8, 2013, 01:35 AM
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does it have to be an FX6300?

Have you considered looking looking at the FM2 platform? a Mobo would cost you about the same, but you could skip the graphics card, and take some of the graphics card budget toward an A10-5800k and double your ram to 8gb. The built-in graphics of the A10 is on par with the 7750, but it could save you a few $, and later you could hybrid crossfire a 7750 with the builtin gpu for more performance if you have the budget down the road

I run an A10 in my HTPC and run some games on it, works pretty well for me, especially considering my TV is only 720p which makes a difference

Here's some pricing below. I re-used some of your parts and parts that emptymellon listed and bundled with an A10-5800K, but I managed to keep your SSD plus hard drive combo, and doubled the amount of ram. I didn't go out of my way to price match anything though

A10-5800k AMD A10-5800K APU Quad Core Processor Socket FM2 3.8GHZ 4MB 100W Retail Box @ 129.99
F2A55-m lk Newegg.ca - ASUS F2A55-M LK PLUS FM2 AMD A55 (Hudson D2) Micro ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS @ 69.99
G.Skill Ares 8gb (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1866 Newegg.ca - G.SKILL Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900) Desktop Memory Model F3-1866C9D-8GAB @ 75.49
XFX550w XFX 550W PRO550W Core Edition Single Rail ATX 12V 44A 24PIN ATX Power Supply 80PLUS Bronze - DirectCanada @ 63.1
CM N200 Buy COOLERMASTER [NSE-200-KKN1] Cooler Master N200 mATX / mITX Tower Case Black 1X5.25 3X3.5 4X2.5 USB3.0 *No PSU* @ 43.46
Seagate 2tb Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM SATA3 64MB Cache 3.5in Internal Hard Drive - DirectCanada @ 89.79
Kingston SSDnow v300 60gb Kingston SSDNow V300 60GB 2.5in SATA3 LSI SandForce Solid State Disk Flash Drive SSD @ 73

total 543.82
total after tax 614.52

shipping not included, but it's below 650

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Old August 8, 2013, 04:01 PM
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Plus, do you already have a (legit) copy of an OS?

Yes I have a windows 7 OS dvd already.


also the FX 6300 is for my current gaming computer which has a FX6100.

I was going to put the FX6100 in the mATX case and upgrade my gaming rig with the fx6300. haha
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Old August 8, 2013, 04:13 PM
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does it have to be an FX6300?


A10-5800k AMD A10-5800K APU Quad Core Processor Socket FM2 3.8GHZ 4MB 100W Retail Box @ 129.99
F2A55-m lk Newegg.ca - ASUS F2A55-M LK PLUS FM2 AMD A55 (Hudson D2) Micro ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS @ 69.99
G.Skill Ares 8gb (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1866 Newegg.ca - G.SKILL Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900) Desktop Memory Model F3-1866C9D-8GAB @ 75.49
XFX550w XFX 550W PRO550W Core Edition Single Rail ATX 12V 44A 24PIN ATX Power Supply 80PLUS Bronze - DirectCanada @ 63.1
CM N200 Buy COOLERMASTER [NSE-200-KKN1] Cooler Master N200 mATX / mITX Tower Case Black 1X5.25 3X3.5 4X2.5 USB3.0 *No PSU* @ 43.46
Seagate 2tb Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM SATA3 64MB Cache 3.5in Internal Hard Drive - DirectCanada @ 89.79
Kingston SSDnow v300 60gb Kingston SSDNow V300 60GB 2.5in SATA3 LSI SandForce Solid State Disk Flash Drive SSD @ 73

total 543.82
total after tax 614.52

shipping not included, but it's below 650

I Will probably use this set up after this project. I sell computers in a small town of 5000 people who don't know which computer to get and end up buying those pre-made MDG and Dell computers that have a monthly payment lasting over a year. It's about the only computers I receive to fix.
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Are load times that critical?

I'd definitely omit the SSD on a budget especially if a 60G is the largest you can afford. I personally wouldn't go with less than a 120G for OS drive.
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Nope the SSD could be removed for budget.
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How do you feel about used? Looking at benchmarks, the 7750 is a pretty poor card for the price point.

For $80 + shipping, you could get a 6850, which does substantially better in BF3 than the 7750. There's one (not mine) in the Buy & Sell right now.

Or drop the SSD and put a little extra money to the video card and pick up a used 650 Ti Boost for $125 (again, not mine) that would run circles around both cards in newer games.

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Also, your experiences may vary, but I find Memory Express to be the cheapest place to buy pretty much everything, with their ridiculously good price match policy. The only variable is whether they have what you want in stock. Use a website like Pricebat or Shopbot to compare prices, make sure the model numbers match ME's stock, and pricematch away. Also, they have $4.99 shipping, even to the middle of nowhere BC.

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Old August 8, 2013, 07:13 PM
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How do you feel about used? Looking at benchmarks, the 7750 is a pretty poor card for the price point.

For $80 + shipping, you could get a 6850, which does substantially better in BF3 than the 7750. There's one (not mine) in the Buy & Sell right now.

Or drop the SSD and put a little extra money to the video card and pick up a used 650 Ti Boost for $125 (again, not mine) that would run circles around both cards in newer games.
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The problem buying used is that if SolidCree is making a business out of his builds then the used hardware offers very poor long-term warranty support.

Even if you would be willing to support it (assuming the hardware still has warranty), if a GPU fails then it needs to be shipped back to you, which then you will need to ship back to ASUS for a warranty claim.

Personally, I would not want to be in SolidCree's shoes if that would need to be done, if there even is any warranty. Otherwise, a dead piece of hardware will make a nice door stopper or a window scraper in the winter; plus an annoyed customer and out-off pocket expense of >$80.
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I'd definitely omit the SSD on a budget especially if a 60G is the largest you can afford. I personally wouldn't go with less than a 120G for OS drive.
^This. And...if I remember correctly, any AMD's chipset below the 800's does not deal well with SSD's trim (the spec'ed out one is a 700 series chipset), which in turn results in poor long-term SSD performance.

So stick with a good HDD and spend the budget on more RAM or a better GPU.

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Yep I only sell the computer and offer tech support out of my house. So I would like to get quality parts, so replacing would be far apart.
We have just got Broadband High speed Internet in the town last 2 months. I would like to get people decent computers for 500-700 without having to resort to those flyers that offer a computer for 1 dollar a day monthly payments.

Only way I make money is by fixing and removing viruses($50 for everything) along with cleaning in the inside of the case for dust buildup to stop over heating(most often reason people bring computers for because they think the problem is a virus for shutting down the computer suddenly)

also I am going into Computer Systems Technician certificate training next coming year and would like to get more experience on that kind of stuff. Also I have seen a windows 98 computer (couldn't find a floppy disk to fix it)haha this past month which was a learning experience.
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