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Old June 7, 2013, 06:46 PM
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Hello :)

Been a while since I posted here, but it's time to choose the parts for a new build and I could definitely use some feedback. Here's why I'm building, what I'll be using it for and what I'm thinking of getting.

1. Why I'm Building:

My PC got a relatively annoying virus a few weeks ago and I decided that I would get a laptop while I took it into the shop for repairs. (Long story short: I don't drive and it would be there for a week or few because of my family's schedule.) However, we sorted out the virus and I had saved over $400 already. Then my mother's PC totally died. In short: It makes more sense for them to give me $300-400 for mine and me to build new and give them this, rather than them going out and buying something from Best Buy for $1,000 (which is what they use to do before I started getting custom PCs.) For now they're sharing one desktop and a netbook and are fine, while I'm making sure I have the full funds for my new build. (My mom's idea of PC is "Facebook!" so keeping her happy is pretty easy.)

2. My budget:

$1,000 -- $1,200 before taxes and building fees. (Why am I not building my own PC? I'm legally blind, have partial paralysis in one of my hands and don't have anyone here with a background in it or an interest in learning. The budget I have listed is too high for me to risk damaging something and being out the money. Maybe I'll be braver someday--I really would like to be able to say I built my own PC--but the price of failure here is relatively prohibitive.)

3. What Will I Use It For?

-- Scrivener / Microsoft Office
-- Photoshop Elements
-- Windows Movie Maker
-- Gaming (MMOs, Elder Scrolls V, The Sims, etc.)
-- iTunes
-- Skype
-- Google Chrome (Facebook, blogging, twitter, goodreads, etc.)

4. Personal Quirks and a few Questions:

-- My last build has spent the approximately 2.5 - 3 years I've had it running at 1366 x 768 using a Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 5850.

-- I will be buying my parts from and having my PC built at Canada Computers. (This will be the forth one I've bought from them; they're doing something right. :) )

-- I intend to run one good quality video card on one screen. (Thinking of updating my display. I wonder if I should get another 37 - 40" TV that supports a PC, or whether I should get something 24 - 27" and put it on a desk? I see the big picture great the way I'm set up, but stuff like fine detailing in an art program or reading stats or health bars in an MMO can be a pain. Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.)

-- I'm essentially an 'out of the box' PC user. I'm not likely to overclock my equipment.

-- I'm torn between Windows 7 (which I know) or Windows 8 (which looks like it could be interesting to learn.)

-- I'm debating whether to buy an SSD. I have a few questions regarding that:

a) Does an SSD take specific care to make sure that it continues to perform properly? Is it something the majority of people should be heading toward as a future technology, or is it more like fans vs. watercooling, where one seems like it would take a much more involved user then the oter?

b) Is owning an SSD as my boot drive going to cause me a migraine if I need to reformat my machine in the future? (And while we're on that topic: what's the best way to back stuff up in case of disaster? I almost lost two and a half years of writing this spring and I *never* want to experience that kind of horror / terror / dread over losing my work again.)

c) What programs should actually BE on an SSD as opposed to my hard drive? How difficult is it to make sure things end up where they're suppose to be since in comparison, SSD space is limited?

5. Estimated Purchase Date:

Sometime between mid july and early August of 2013.

6. Possible Builds:

All of my previous PCs have been AMD builds and I am likely to continue that here. I'm including one build that's more expensive and one that is a bit more cost efficient. These aren't necessarily 'this or that'; there are definitely things that could be meshed together more. I'm totally open to any and all suggestions. My goal is to find a good balance between value and performance that will meet my needs.

Simpler Build: (Total Cost: $905)

PROCESSOR: AMD X6 FX-6300 (95W) Six-Core Socket AM3+, 3.5GHz CPU, 8Mb Cache, 32nm (FD6300WMHKBOX) ($125)

Canada Computers | CPU | AMD X6 FX-6300 (95W) Six-Core Socket AM3+, 3.5GHz CPU, 8Mb Cache, 32nm (FD6300WMHKBOX)

MOTHERBOARD: ASUS M5A97 R2.0 Socket AM3+ AMD 970/SB950 Chipset
- Dual Channel DDR3 2133(O.C.) MHz, 2x PCI-Express x16
- GLAN, 6x SATA 6.0Gb/s, 2x USB 3.0, 6x USB 2.0 ($100)

Canada Computers | Motherboards | ASUS M5A97 R2.0 Socket AM3+ AMD 970/SB950 Chipset | Dual Channel DDR3 2133(O.C.) MHz, 2x PCI-Express x16 | GLAN, 6x SATA 6.0Gb/s, 2x USB 3.0, 6x USB 2.0 | ATX

GRAPHICS CARD: Sapphire (11200-07-20G) Radeon HD 7850 2GB GDDR5
- 860 MHz Clock, 4800 MHz Memory
- PCI-Express 3.0, Dual-Link DVI, Dual Mini DisplayPort, HDMI ($200)

Canada Computers | Video Cards | Sapphire (11200-07-20G) Radeon HD 7850 2GB GDDR5 | 860 MHz Clock, 4800 MHz Memory | PCI-Express 3.0, Dual-Link DVI, Dual Mini DisplayPort, HDMI

RAM: Patriot Viper 3 Mamba Black 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1866MHz CL9 DIMMs (PV38G186C9K) ($85) NOTE: Rounded up for easier math.

Canada Computers | Memory | Patriot Viper 3 Mamba Black 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1866MHz CL9 DIMMs (PV38G186C9K)

HDD: WD Black 1TB 3.5" SATA3 7200RPM 64MB Cache OEM Hard Drive (WD1002FAEX) ($95)

Canada Computers | Hard Drives | WD Black 1TB 3.5" SATA3 7200RPM 64MB Cache OEM Hard Drive (WD1002FAEX)

POWER SUPPLY: Corsair Builder Series CX600 V2 600 Watt 80 PLUS Bronze Certified Power Supply (CP-9020048-NA/US) ($75)

Canada Computers | Power Supplies | Corsair Builder Series CX600 V2 600 Watt 80 PLUS Bronze Certified Power Supply (CP-9020048-NA/US)

WIRELESS ADAPTER: ASUS N300 PCE-N15, Wireless N PCI-Express Adapter - up to 300 Mbps, 2 x R SMA Antenna
-Wireless N300 PCI-E adapter include low profile bracket ($30)

Canada Computers | Networking | ASUS N300 PCE-N15, Wireless N PCI-Express Adapter - up to 300 Mbps, 2 x R SMA Antenna |Wireless N300 PCI-E adapter include low profile bracket

DVD DRIVE: LG (GH24NS95B) Internal 24x DVD-Writer, OEM
- Black, SATA ($20)

Canada Computers | CD/DVD/RW /Blu-Ray Drives | LG (GH24NS95B) Internal 24x DVD-Writer, OEM| Black, SATA

WINDOWS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium with Service Pack 1 64-Bit - 1 PC License and Media - OEM English (GFC-02050) ($105) *NOTE: I could also go with Windows 8 for $110)

Canada Computers | Software | Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium with Service Pack 1 64-Bit - 1 PC License and Media - OEM English (GFC-02050)

Middle Ground Build (Total Cost: $1090)

PROCESSOR: AMD X6 FX-6300 (95W) Six-Core Socket AM3+, 3.5GHz CPU, 8Mb Cache, 32nm (FD6300WMHKBOX) ($125)

Canada Computers | CPU | AMD X6 FX-6300 (95W) Six-Core Socket AM3+, 3.5GHz CPU, 8Mb Cache, 32nm (FD6300WMHKBOX)

MOTHERBOARD: ASUS M5A97 R2.0 Socket AM3+ AMD 970/SB950 Chipset
- Dual Channel DDR3 2133(O.C.) MHz, 2x PCI-Express x16
- GLAN, 6x SATA 6.0Gb/s, 2x USB 3.0, 6x USB 2.0 ($100)

Canada Computers | Motherboards | ASUS M5A97 R2.0 Socket AM3+ AMD 970/SB950 Chipset | Dual Channel DDR3 2133(O.C.) MHz, 2x PCI-Express x16 | GLAN, 6x SATA 6.0Gb/s, 2x USB 3.0, 6x USB 2.0 | ATX
- ATX

GRAPHICS CARD: Sapphire (11200-07-20G) Radeon HD 7850 2GB GDDR5
- 860 MHz Clock, 4800 MHz Memory
- PCI-Express 3.0, Dual-Link DVI, Dual Mini DisplayPort, HDMI ($200)

Canada Computers | Video Cards | Sapphire (11200-07-20G) Radeon HD 7850 2GB GDDR5 | 860 MHz Clock, 4800 MHz Memory | PCI-Express 3.0, Dual-Link DVI, Dual Mini DisplayPort, HDMI

RAM: Patriot Viper 3 Mamba Black 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1866MHz CL9 DIMMs (PV38G186C9K) ($85)

Canada Computers | Memory | Patriot Viper 3 Mamba Black 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1866MHz CL9 DIMMs (PV38G186C9K)

HDD: WD Black 1TB 3.5" SATA3 7200RPM 64MB Cache OEM Hard Drive (WD1002FAEX) ($95)

Canada Computers | Hard Drives | WD Black 1TB 3.5" SATA3 7200RPM 64MB Cache OEM Hard Drive (WD1002FAEX)

SSD: SanDisk Extreme 120GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Drive (SSD). Read: 550MB/s Write: 510MB/s (SDSSDX-120G-G25) ($115)

Canada Computers | Solid State Drives | SanDisk Extreme 120GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Drive (SSD). Read: 550MB/s Write: 510MB/s (SDSSDX-120G-G25)

POWER SUPPLY: Corsair Builder Series CX600 V2 600 Watt 80 PLUS Bronze Certified Power Supply (CP-9020048-NA/US) ($75)

Canada Computers | Power Supplies | Corsair Builder Series CX600 V2 600 Watt 80 PLUS Bronze Certified Power Supply (CP-9020048-NA/US)

CASE: Antec Three Hundred Two Gaming Series Mid-ATX ($70)

Canada Computers | Cases | Antec Three Hundred Two Gaming Series Mid-ATX

WIRELESS ADAPTER: ASUS N300 PCE-N15, Wireless N PCI-Express Adapter - up to 300 Mbps, 2 x R SMA Antenna
-Wireless N300 PCI-E adapter include low profile bracket ($30)

Canada Computers | Networking | ASUS N300 PCE-N15, Wireless N PCI-Express Adapter - up to 300 Mbps, 2 x R SMA Antenna |Wireless N300 PCI-E adapter include low profile bracket

DVD DRIVE: LG (GH24NS95B) Internal 24x DVD-Writer, OEM
- Black, SATA ($20)

Canada Computers | CD/DVD/RW /Blu-Ray Drives | LG (GH24NS95B) Internal 24x DVD-Writer, OEM| Black, SATA

BLURAY DRIVE: LG (WH14NS40 BDXL) Internal 14x Blu-ray Writer, OEM
- Black, SATA BDXL, 3D Play Back. ($70)

Canada Computers | CD/DVD/RW /Blu-Ray Drives | LG (WH14NS40 BDXL) Internal 14x Blu-ray Writer, OEM| Black, SATA BDXL, 3D Play Back.

WINDOWS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium with Service Pack 1 64-Bit - 1 PC License and Media - OEM English (GFC-02050) ($105) *NOTE: I could also go with Windows 8 for $110)

Canada Computers | Software | Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium with Service Pack 1 64-Bit - 1 PC License and Media - OEM English (GFC-02050)

More Fancy Build: (Total Cost $1210)

PROCESSOR: AMD X6 FX-6300 (95W) Six-Core Socket AM3+, 3.5GHz CPU, 8Mb Cache, 32nm (FD6300WMHKBOX) ($125)

Canada Computers | CPU | AMD X6 FX-6300 (95W) Six-Core Socket AM3+, 3.5GHz CPU, 8Mb Cache, 32nm (FD6300WMHKBOX)

MOTHERBOARD: ASUS M5A97 R2.0 Socket AM3+ AMD 970/SB950 Chipset
- Dual Channel DDR3 2133(O.C.) MHz, 2x PCI-Express x16
- GLAN, 6x SATA 6.0Gb/s, 2x USB 3.0, 6x USB 2.0 ($100)

Canada Computers | Motherboards | ASUS M5A97 R2.0 Socket AM3+ AMD 970/SB950 Chipset | Dual Channel DDR3 2133(O.C.) MHz, 2x PCI-Express x16 | GLAN, 6x SATA 6.0Gb/s, 2x USB 3.0, 6x USB 2.0 | ATX

GRAPHICS CARD: Sapphire (11199-20-20G) Radeon HD 7870 XT WITH BOOST 2GB GDDR5
- 925 MHz Clock, 6000 MHz Memory
- PCI-Express 3.0, Dual-Link DVI, Double Mini DisplayPort, HDMI ($255)

Canada Computers | Video Cards | Sapphire (11199-20-20G) Radeon HD 7870 XT WITH BOOST 2GB GDDR5 | 925 MHz Clock, 6000 MHz Memory | PCI-Express 3.0, Dual-Link DVI, Double Mini DisplayPort, HDMI

RAM: Patriot Viper 3 Mamba Black 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 1866MHz CL10 DIMMs (PV316G186C0K) ($150)

Canada Computers | Memory | Patriot Viper 3 Mamba Black 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 1866MHz CL10 DIMMs (PV316G186C0K)

HDD: WD Black 1TB 3.5" SATA3 7200RPM 64MB Cache OEM Hard Drive (WD1002FAEX) ($95)

Canada Computers | Hard Drives | WD Black 1TB 3.5" SATA3 7200RPM 64MB Cache OEM Hard Drive (WD1002FAEX)

SSD: SanDisk Extreme 120GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Drive (SSD). Read: 550MB/s Write: 510MB/s (SDSSDX-120G-G25) ($115)

Canada Computers | Solid State Drives | SanDisk Extreme 120GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Drive (SSD). Read: 550MB/s Write: 510MB/s (SDSSDX-120G-G25)

POWER SUPPLY: Corsair Builder Series CX600 V2 600 Watt 80 PLUS Bronze Certified Power Supply (CP-9020048-NA/US) ($75)

Canada Computers | Power Supplies | Corsair Builder Series CX600 V2 600 Watt 80 PLUS Bronze Certified Power Supply (CP-9020048-NA/US)

CASE: Antec Three Hundred Two Gaming Series Mid-ATX ($70)

Canada Computers | Cases | Antec Three Hundred Two Gaming Series Mid-ATX

WIRELESS ADAPTER: ASUS N300 PCE-N15, Wireless N PCI-Express Adapter - up to 300 Mbps, 2 x R SMA Antenna
-Wireless N300 PCI-E adapter include low profile bracket ($30)

Canada Computers | Networking | ASUS N300 PCE-N15, Wireless N PCI-Express Adapter - up to 300 Mbps, 2 x R SMA Antenna |Wireless N300 PCI-E adapter include low profile bracket

DVD DRIVE: LG (GH24NS95B) Internal 24x DVD-Writer, OEM
- Black, SATA ($20)

Canada Computers | CD/DVD/RW /Blu-Ray Drives | LG (GH24NS95B) Internal 24x DVD-Writer, OEM| Black, SATA

BLURAY DRIVE: LG (WH14NS40 BDXL) Internal 14x Blu-ray Writer, OEM
- Black, SATA BDXL, 3D Play Back. ($70)

Canada Computers | CD/DVD/RW /Blu-Ray Drives | LG (WH14NS40 BDXL) Internal 14x Blu-ray Writer, OEM| Black, SATA BDXL, 3D Play Back.

WINDOWS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium with Service Pack 1 64-Bit - 1 PC License and Media - OEM English (GFC-02050) ($105) *NOTE: I could also go with Windows 8 for $110)

Canada Computers | Software | Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium with Service Pack 1 64-Bit - 1 PC License and Media - OEM English (GFC-02050)

7. A Few More Practical Questions:

a) Is the 7870 XT worth the extra money? The information I've read makes it sound fantastic, but remember, I'm only running at a 720p resolution. On one hand, it may be overkill. On the other, will it extend the life of the card (as far as being able to play stuff; not how long it will "live") due to my situation?

b) Do I want / need 16gb of RAM because I make YouTube videos in Windows Movie Maker?

c) Again with the SSD concerns. Any information you can give here is great as this is not my area of expertise.

d) Did I pick a strong enough PSU? Remember, I'll be sticking with one good graphics card and do not intend to overclock.

e) Am I being silly getting a DVD burner and a BluRay? Do I need a BluRay burner or should I switch that to a player? Or should I get some kind of combo drive? It seems silly not to grab a separate DVD burner for $20 but if there are reasons not to I'd love to hear them.

f) Anyone know if the Antec Three Hundred Two is as good as the original? The first 300 has been a fantastic little case so I figure getting the new one makes sense.

g) Will the CPU / motherboard I've picked compliment the other components well?

h) *feels silly for this* The thing I listed under wireless *is* what I need to get my PC to hook up to my wifi, right? (If not I need to change that.)

8. Last, Is There Anything I've Missed or Overlooked?

If you have any suggestions, comments, concerns, etc. I would love to hear them. I enjoy researching this stuff, but in no way do I claim to be an expert. If there are choices I can make within my budget or any of my build ideas that will work better for me, I would definitely love to know.

Thanks so much for taking the time to read this post (*cough* novella *cough*). I look forward to hearing your thoughts. Have a great day! :)

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Old June 8, 2013, 12:21 AM
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First off, I'd recommend spending just a bit more time shopping around, and ultimately purchasing your PC from NCIX instead.
Price matching is easy and can be done online, which will save you lots of money to get better parts.
For $50 (PC Assembly And Testing with 1 Year Limited NCIX System Warranty PRE-CONFIG WIN. OS If Purchased), NCIX will assemble and install your OS, and will warranty your parts for 1 year through them (not manufacturer).

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7. A Few More Practical Questions:

a) Is the 7870 XT worth the extra money? The information I've read makes it sound fantastic, but remember, I'm only running at a 720p resolution. On one hand, it may be overkill. On the other, will it extend the life of the card (as far as being able to play stuff; not how long it will "live") due to my situation?

Resolution isn't the only thing that matters. The higher your graphical/details setting, the more stress it puts on your video card.
At that price point, I'd just go with a 7950 for a little bit more.

b) Do I want / need 16gb of RAM because I make YouTube videos in Windows Movie Maker?

You don't NEED 16gb, but going with 2x8GB vs 2x4GB now would be a much better investment in the long run. You'd be done with RAM. That's it, no more upgrading whatsoever. Your relatives that you'll eventually pass the computer onto will be happy.

c) Again with the SSD concerns. Any information you can give here is great as this is not my area of expertise.

There's not too much to SSDs. Put the stuff you want to load faster on the SSD, the stuff that doesn't matter on the HDD.
If you go for Windows 8, it'll optimize your SSD for you. With Windows 7, you need to do some tweaks manually.
I kinda swear by Intel SSDs myself, specifically the 520 series.
5 year warranty and comes with a great tool to optimize SSDs on even older Windows OS'.

d) Did I pick a strong enough PSU? Remember, I'll be sticking with one good graphics card and do not intend to overclock.

These days, CPUs and GPUs are using less and less power. You want to focus more on the efficiency of the PSU rather than the wattage. Example, 80+ gold / 80+ silver.
Your entire fancy system, in the worst case scenario, will only draw ~300w.
I would recommend getting a higher efficiency PSU rather than a higher wattage one.

e) Am I being silly getting a DVD burner and a BluRay? Do I need a BluRay burner or should I switch that to a player? Or should I get some kind of combo drive? It seems silly not to grab a separate DVD burner for $20 but if there are reasons not to I'd love to hear them.

If you get Bluray, it does DVDs as well. Honestly, unless you've got a modded PS3, I see no reason for Bluray. HDDs are much more cost effective and faster for storage. And if you don't use a DVD drive often, but still need one, consider a USB external one. Great to use for other devices as well.

f) Anyone know if the Antec Three Hundred Two is as good as the original? The first 300 has been a fantastic little case so I figure getting the new one makes sense.

I don't know what your preferences for a case is, but I'll share with you my favourite.
HAF 912 with Silverstone card reader
Cooler Master HAF 912 Black Mid Tower ATX Case 4X5.25 1X3.5 6X3.5INT No PS Front USB Sound
Silverstone FP37B USB3.0 SDXC Cardreader
The HAF 912 is simply the most brilliant case I've ever worked with. The design is just too good. The only thing lacking was front USB3.0 ports, which the Silverstone card reader fixes for me. Because I tend to use my camera with SD cards quite often, it made sense. Though this may not apply to you.


g) Will the CPU / motherboard I've picked compliment the other components well?

Your other components is not what matters, but rather what you do with your computer. MMOs tend to stress out the CPU more than conventional games, so I would recommend the 8 core FX-8xxx CPU.
Although, if you find yourself doing a lot of video work, I would highly recommend going with Intel and using software that makes use of their Quick Sync Video. IT IS FAST.

h) *feels silly for this* The thing I listed under wireless *is* what I need to get my PC to hook up to my wifi, right? (If not I need to change that.)

Yes.

8. Last, Is There Anything I've Missed or Overlooked?

If you have any suggestions, comments, concerns, etc. I would love to hear them. I enjoy researching this stuff, but in no way do I claim to be an expert. If there are choices I can make within my budget or any of my build ideas that will work better for me, I would definitely love to know.

Thanks so much for taking the time to read this post (*cough* novella *cough*). I look forward to hearing your thoughts. Have a great day! :)
You can get so much more bang for your buck if you shop around and price match good deals.
I can put together something much better for you in a separate post, or edit this one later.
Do you already have a backup solution for your data? Or just depending on the 1TB storage?

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a) Does an SSD take specific care to make sure that it continues to perform properly? Is it something the majority of people should be heading toward as a future technology, or is it more like fans vs. watercooling, where one seems like it would take a much more involved user then the oter?

Most SSDs just need TRIM enabled, and you're good to go. There's some tweaks you should do in Windows7 to extend the life of the SSD (such as disabling defragmenting). These are all automated in Windows8 though.
The majority of people should be using SSDs in the future, it's just so much faster. Once you go SSD, you don't go back.

b) Is owning an SSD as my boot drive going to cause me a migraine if I need to reformat my machine in the future? (And while we're on that topic: what's the best way to back stuff up in case of disaster? I almost lost two and a half years of writing this spring and I *never* want to experience that kind of horror / terror / dread over losing my work again.)

SSD is the same as a HDD. It can be slightly less of a migraine if you have to reformat/reinstall because it'll do it faster.

The most cost effective way to backup is to get 2 hard-drives and put them in a mirror(RAID1) array. Always, always, always store your important files on the array.
It's very easy to do.
Just go to your disk management in Windows, right click on the empty drive.
Choose "New mirrored volume", select the other drive, and you're done.
Now, anything done on the volume will be duplicated to the other, should one of the drives fail. And if your system goes kaput, simply plug that drive into another Windows machine and you're good to go (just "import" the disk).


c) What programs should actually BE on an SSD as opposed to my hard drive? How difficult is it to make sure things end up where they're suppose to be since in comparison, SSD space is limited?

Just Windows and whatever you find yourself using often. For example, I play SC2 and Defiance, so I put those on my SSD. It's a 120gb SSD, but I only use 40gb of it.

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Old June 8, 2013, 04:29 AM
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As said above, there are places that do good customer service and will save you money, NCIX and Memory Express tend to be popular here.

AMD isn't going to be the better for performance. At least not for games and single threaded stuff (programs that use 1 core)

Go for a 27" 1080 screen, should help with seeing the finer details.

Come back around 2 weeks before your going to buy as Nvidia are mid release on the 700 series graphics cards.

SSD's once set-up you can basically forget about.. There are a few things which are good to do in order to extend their life and keep their speed up but they are relatively simple
(put download folders, temp files, etc on hdd)
Depending on the size of SSD you get you can just have the os and a few applications on there or you could have everything application and game wise on them.
An SSD will make a huge difference to your PC experience and as your not going to overclock and are sticking to a relatively low res, you can save on CPU, motherboard, cooling and gpu and go for a nice big SSD.

I'll do 2 quick suggested spec's for you 1 at 1200 one at 1000:
Note the gpu is more expensive that it will be when it comes time to buy
Do you really use dvd's and blu-ray? if yes fair enough pop ones in but personally I find most people download everything these days, from games to programs to movies. and at that why have 2 drives? a blu-ray writer will do dvd's too. Personally I don't even put one into a build at all any more, USB drive with windows on it and then there is no need after that..
Think about your own usage and decide if you need / want a DVD drive at all or a Blu-ray. Chances are if you don't watch Blu-ray movies on your pc now you probably never will.

Intel Core i5-4430, Asus GeForce GTX 670, NZXT H2 Classic Silent (Black) - System Build - PCPartPicker Canada (add os of choice and optical drives, as said GPU price should be lower by the time you come to buy)

AMD build:
AMD FX-8320, Asus Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition, NZXT H2 Classic Silent (Black) - System Build - PCPartPicker Canada Really this is a monster price- performance for things that are heavily threaded (can use more than 1 or 2 cores) things like video encoding and rendering will be much faster on this, however AMD lack in the single core operations like gaming etc and Intel will blow it away.

I've chosen MSI and ASUS for the gpu and motherboards as they are both pretty damn solid and have some of the better prices and most importantly IMO is that if you have any issues and have to return them they both have RMA centres in Canada.

P.S, forgot the wireless adapter, add one for $20

Things to note with the builds..
Intel build will destroy the FX6300 in performance for nearly everything.
Intel build will beat the FX8320 I spec'd in everything but rendering, encoding etc. Get the FX8320 if you do lots of rendering and encoding, I'd go for the intel if you only do some. Though the newer 4xxx Intel chips are very good at rendering some things (check out the haswell review) you could also save some by going with the slightly older 3xxx chips (pc part picker will only allow you to select compatible boards so remove both, pick processor, look for combo discounts (cheapest at the bottom, click view more lots)
256GB SSD (and a top performing one at that, not that the sandisk is bad at all)
8 GB of ram, get a 2x8GB kit instead if you want more but I think you'll find 8 is plenty. If you want the faster memory take your pick from : Choose Memory - PCPartPicker Canada Gskill are highly rated around here but any will be fine.
A 660ti will beat a 7850 never-mind a 670 which will stomp all over a 7870 (watch out for the 760ti which will be a slightly revised and slightly faster 670 going for 660ti money in the next few weeks)
550W gold rated PSU will be enough for pretty much any current single GPU build. Gold rated should give you cleaner power and generate less heat and noise due to it's efficiency and the Seasonic units are damn good, very good protection for your system in the worst case of the PSU going pop.
Case, I would choose between Corsair, Bitfinx, Nzxt, Fractal and Coolermaster. $70 for the Antec seems steep.
Got this for my brother Bitfinx Survivor for his build last year and it's a great case especially for the price, 2 200mm fans, great features, very solid build quality and really quiet.

Chose Matx boards as your only going to have 1 GPU and it will allow you to look at a smaller build along with generally being cheaper.

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