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bisnettda23 June 2, 2013 02:08 PM

New Haswell Build. First Build.
 
I was on here a few weeks ago but got talked into waiting for haswell. So it is a little past my original budget of 1800 but I think it is worth the extra 150. Any advice or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Will be used 90% for gaming.. with the occasional netflix or internet browsing.

PCPartPicker part list: Intel Core i5-4670K, MSI GeForce GTX 770, NZXT Phantom 410 (Gunmetal/Black) - System Build - PCPartPicker
Price breakdown by merchant: Intel Core i5-4670K, MSI GeForce GTX 770, NZXT Phantom 410 (Gunmetal/Black) - System Build - Price Breakdown By Merchant - PCPartPicker
Benchmarks: Intel Core i5-4670K, MSI GeForce GTX 770, NZXT Phantom 410 (Gunmetal/Black) - System Build - Benchmarks - PCPartPicker

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($249.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($22.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-GD65 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($196.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($219.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($449.99 @ NCIX US)
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus PCE-N15 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($26.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Gunmetal/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($97.88 @ TigerDirect)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($126.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($266.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1952.73
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-02 16:07 EDT-0400)

Bond007 June 2, 2013 02:45 PM

Looks very solid. You won't regret it if you build as is. 2 points. From what I have read the 144hz monitor doesn't offer any benefit from a 120hz, so if you can find a comparable model that is 120hz for less I would swap. 2nd is that while haswell is better, I don't think it justifies its price premium. I am hoping the price will come down once its out for a bit... Your call if its worth the money to you.

bisnettda23 June 2, 2013 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bond007 (Post 712812)
Looks very solid. You won't regret it if you build as is. 2 points. From what I have read the 144hz monitor doesn't offer any benefit from a 120hz, so if you can find a comparable model that is 120hz for less I would swap. 2nd is that while haswell is better, I don't think it justifies its price premium. I am hoping the price will come down once its out for a bit... Your call if its worth the money to you.

Yea the monitor was recommended to me but I will continue to search! Also I've been waiting for about 4 weeks to build and am very excited since it is my first build so I'm not sure if I could wait much longer. I have looked at Ivy and it may save me a few bucks but I feel like the newer chip is better.. and just not sure if I can wait much longer to get the build going.

lowfat June 2, 2013 03:23 PM

Looks good to me. And stick w/ that monitor and try out the Lightboost hack for it. Makes gaming look smooth as butter. You could likely drop to a slightly lower model motherboard if you are trying to save a bit of cash.

Dzzope June 2, 2013 05:02 PM

Ditto on the motherboard, maybe look at the GD45 and a 550W version of the PSU will be plenty for that build with a decent OC

Is that the MSI 770 lightning? Unless you really are into playing about with the voltage read points and the like it really isn't worth the $50 premium over the standard one. (to me at least)

You could scrape and save here and there and yes the cpu's are being charged a bit of a premium for, your shout as to if it's worth it vs ivy or even sandy.

All in all though it's a very nice build.. your shout if you want to spend on the extras or not but you can save some and have a machine that will be almost indistinguishable in performance outside of benchmarks.

Whatever you decide to do (go with what you've got or cut back some) you should be VERY happy with it.

bisnettda23 June 2, 2013 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dzzope (Post 712836)
Ditto on the motherboard, maybe look at the GD45 and a 550W version of the PSU will be plenty for that build with a decent OC

Is that the MSI 770 lightning? Unless you really are into playing about with the voltage read points and the like it really isn't worth the $50 premium over the standard one. (to me at least)

You could scrape and save here and there and yes the cpu's are being charged a bit of a premium for, your shout as to if it's worth it vs ivy or even sandy.

All in all though it's a very nice build.. your shout if you want to spend on the extras or not but you can save some and have a machine that will be almost indistinguishable in performance outside of benchmarks.

Whatever you decide to do (go with what you've got or cut back some) you should be VERY happy with it.

Well one of my biggest issues with the gpu was I didn't know any better.. And MSI seems like a trust brand so I went with it. Also I'm having an internal struggle on oc'ing.. I am was super hesitant on building my own pc.. and when I get it put together.. I don't know if I will even be interested in overclocking. If it runs my games on the highest setting smoothly.. I probably won't even think about overclocking.. thoughts guys? I guess my thoughts were the difference in the cpu was only about 20-30 dollars I think.. so to have the ability to oc if I want to is appealing but I'm a college student so.. saving money is also appealing.

Dzzope June 2, 2013 05:54 PM

The standard one has a very good cooler, is pre-OC'd anyway and overclocking them is VERY easy.. and $50 cheaper (before tax)
The lightning is really for the enthusiasts that will be probably putting them under water and trying to get the very last bit of performance out of them (hence the voltage read points and upped power systems)

MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card (N770 TF 2GD5/OC) - PCPartPicker

bisnettda23 June 2, 2013 06:46 PM

Perfect thanks for the help. This is where I am sitting with the build.. Still debating on the mobo and the k version of the processor since I'm not too sure I'll be overclocking..

PCPartPicker part list: Intel Core i5-4670K, MSI GeForce GTX 770, NZXT Phantom 410 (Gunmetal/Black) - System Build - PCPartPicker
Price breakdown by merchant: Intel Core i5-4670K, MSI GeForce GTX 770, NZXT Phantom 410 (Gunmetal/Black) - System Build - Price Breakdown By Merchant - PCPartPicker
Benchmarks: Intel Core i5-4670K, MSI GeForce GTX 770, NZXT Phantom 410 (Gunmetal/Black) - System Build - Benchmarks - PCPartPicker

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($249.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($22.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-GD65 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($196.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($219.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($399.99 @ NCIX US)
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus PCE-N15 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($26.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Gunmetal/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($97.88 @ TigerDirect)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($126.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($266.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1902.73
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-02 20:45 EDT-0400)

rjbarker June 2, 2013 09:12 PM

Trust me, once you build yourself......you Overclock.....slowly at first, then more n more.....then your hooked. As I patiently wait for my Windows Updates to finish so I can go back into the Bios and immediately set the mult to x 47 and "go for it" ;)

YoungMan June 2, 2013 10:53 PM

I guess that's one of the nice things about my Asus board. Overclocking can be done in Windows. So while I'm stressing out the system, I can change the multiplier and voltage until I start encountering errors and whatnot.

Is there something MSI offers in that department?



Oh, I was under the impression you already bought your system. But here's some input:

I would save about $40-60 on the PSU and get a 550w or even 450w. Your system will barely hit over 250w.
Use the extra dough towards a gtx 780 or upgrade the hard-drive to 2TB or 3TB depending on your needs.
If you need redundancy, perhaps go for 2x1TB in RAID1 if you don't already have a backup solution. ~$60 is a hell of a lot cheaper than losing data.


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