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Old May 16, 2013, 05:09 PM
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Alright this is my first ever pc build. Will be used mostly if not all for gaming. I've put together a parts sheet based of what I've researched. My budget was 1800 but I was thrilled to come in a little under that to be honest. I will be buying in the US. I really don't have any preferences since it is my first build. I do need wifi however. Do to the nature of my apartment I need wifi no possible way of running a cord and I haven't found much info on how to get wifi in this bad boy. So, any advice, recommendations, different parts, or changes that people would suggest would be greatly appreciated. This is my first build so I am not too sure if this is even a good build and I am also a huge noob with terms still so I apologize in advance. Here it is thanks again!

PCPartPicker part list: Intel Core i5-3570, Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition, NZXT Phantom 410 (Black/Orange) - System Build - PCPartPicker
Price breakdown by merchant: Intel Core i5-3570, Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition, NZXT Phantom 410 (Black/Orange) - System Build - Price Breakdown By Merchant - PCPartPicker
Benchmarks: Intel Core i5-3570, Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition, NZXT Phantom 410 (Black/Orange) - System Build - Benchmarks - PCPartPicker

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($194.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($129.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($67.19 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card ($433.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Black/Orange) ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($88.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Acer H236HLbid 60Hz 23.0" Monitor ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Logitech MK550 Wireless Ergonomic Keyboard w/Laser Mouse ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1543.03
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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Old May 16, 2013, 06:12 PM
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Hey there, build looks pretty solid. If you can afford a larger SSD (256 GB) you will have some additional headroom for games, programs, etc. A 128 GB drive can seem awfully small quite fast.
With regards to wireless connectivity, you may be interested in something like this wireless adapter at newegg.ca :
Newegg.ca - Amped Wireless UA2000-CA High Power Wireless-N Directional Dual Band Adapter IEEE 802.11a/b/g/n USB 2.0 Up to 300+300Mbps Wireless Data Rates WPA2
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Old May 16, 2013, 06:44 PM
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Hey there, build looks pretty solid. If you can afford a larger SSD (256 GB) you will have some additional headroom for games, programs, etc. A 128 GB drive can seem awfully small quite fast.
With regards to wireless connectivity, you may be interested in something like this wireless adapter at newegg.ca :
Newegg.ca - Amped Wireless UA2000-CA High Power Wireless-N Directional Dual Band Adapter IEEE 802.11a/b/g/n USB 2.0 Up to 300+300Mbps Wireless Data Rates WPA2
Even with the additional 1tb? Well I got this so far. Still slightly confused on the wireless..the only options they give me on pcpartpicker is a wireless network adapter.. nothing like what you showed me came up? Anyway this is where I am at.

PCPartPicker part list: Intel Core i5-3570, Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition, NZXT Phantom 410 (Black/Orange) - System Build - PCPartPicker
Price breakdown by merchant: Intel Core i5-3570, Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition, NZXT Phantom 410 (Black/Orange) - System Build - Price Breakdown By Merchant - PCPartPicker
Benchmarks: Intel Core i5-3570, Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition, NZXT Phantom 410 (Black/Orange) - System Build - Benchmarks - PCPartPicker

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($194.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($186.86 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($67.19 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card ($433.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Black/Orange) ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($88.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Acer H236HLbid 60Hz 23.0" Monitor ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Logitech MK550 Wireless Ergonomic Keyboard w/Laser Mouse ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1599.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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Old May 16, 2013, 06:46 PM
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Hey there, build looks pretty solid. If you can afford a larger SSD (256 GB) you will have some additional headroom for games, programs, etc. A 128 GB drive can seem awfully small quite fast.
With regards to wireless connectivity, you may be interested in something like this wireless adapter at newegg.ca :
Newegg.ca - Amped Wireless UA2000-CA High Power Wireless-N Directional Dual Band Adapter IEEE 802.11a/b/g/n USB 2.0 Up to 300+300Mbps Wireless Data Rates WPA2
Alright this is what I got. Still confused on the wireless. It only gives me a wireless adapter option and nothing like you showed me comes up.

PCPartPicker part list: Intel Core i5-3570, Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition, NZXT Phantom 410 (Black/Orange) - System Build - PCPartPicker
Price breakdown by merchant: Intel Core i5-3570, Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition, NZXT Phantom 410 (Black/Orange) - System Build - Price Breakdown By Merchant - PCPartPicker
Benchmarks: Intel Core i5-3570, Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition, NZXT Phantom 410 (Black/Orange) - System Build - Benchmarks - PCPartPicker

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($194.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($186.86 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($67.19 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card ($433.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Black/Orange) ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($88.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Acer H236HLbid 60Hz 23.0" Monitor ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Logitech MK550 Wireless Ergonomic Keyboard w/Laser Mouse ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1599.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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Old May 16, 2013, 07:49 PM
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I would get 12 or 16 gigs of ram instead of just 8
I would get a WD hard drive instead of Seagate
I would get a slightly larger PSU in case you decide to xfire that 7970 down the road. 800+ in that case Seasonic or Corsair
I would get a Dell or Samsung monitor over an Acer in a heart beat. Some great reviews here on monitors.
Wireless keyboards and mice are quite horrible for gaming just a heads up. Mechanical keyboards rule for FPS gaming and the like.
I can't comment on the cpu cooling I water cool ;) I don't know what the air cpu cooling rage is these days ya might wanna check some of the great reviews here.
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Old May 16, 2013, 08:15 PM
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I would get 12 or 16 gigs of ram instead of just 8
I would get a WD hard drive instead of Seagate
I would get a slightly larger PSU in case you decide to xfire that 7970 down the road. 800+ in that case Seasonic or Corsair
I would get a Dell or Samsung monitor over an Acer in a heart beat. Some great reviews here on monitors.
Wireless keyboards and mice are quite horrible for gaming just a heads up. Mechanical keyboards rule for FPS gaming and the like.
I can't comment on the cpu cooling I water cool ;) I don't know what the air cpu cooling rage is these days ya might wanna check some of the great reviews here.
For the ram I didn't add more because I heard it was the cheapest thing to upgrade when I need. The PSU.. well I know nothing about haha. The monitor any good specifics? I know 120 hz is good other then that.. I know more about tv's then computer screens. Also the benefit of a WD over a seagate..? Yah I'll look at a different keyboard and mouse as well!
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Old May 16, 2013, 10:33 PM
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A wireless adapter will allow you to connect to your wireless router sans cables. There are also bridges and repeaters that will also due the job, though I have not used those personally. You may want to look into a power line adapter as well, they work over your homes electrical wiring that is in place.
If you are only going to use your rig for gaming at 1080 p (your chosen Acer displays resolution) then a single HD7970 will be more than sufficient, no need for a larger PSU.
Also, if this build is intended primarily for gaming, then 8 GB will do for now, adding more later on is easy.
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Old May 17, 2013, 04:38 AM
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on the HDD, gotta agree with clshades, Seagate does not exude confidence in reliability. WD all the way. Blue will be sufficient but Black if you want performance for storage (not needed really especially if you bump the SSD)

On the GPU, I tend to stick with single cards myself and if your going AMD it would be advisable to also (see micro-stutter issues) which means a 550W gold Seasonic will be better than the one you have and only about $5 or $10 in the difference
Gold rated will run cooler and quieter due to it's higher efficiency.

Not personally a fan of the vengence memory, IIRC it requires 1.65v and you may have to fiddle with the voltages on the board to get it running stable. (Had a few issues on a friends build, though that may have been down to the board)
G-skill is damn good and many people here reccomend it. Should be about the same price too.

On the motherboard, I don't personally like Gigabyte for motherboards. More than a few bad experiences personally and I saw ALLOT of RMA's come through a computer shop I used to work in (Granted a long time ago) so I am biased against them
If your from Canada then MSI and Asus have RMA centres there whereas gigabyte I believe you have to send to California. MSI is the better value atm in my opinion
Not good if you have problems (and they do happen to all manufacturers), it's about making it as painless as possible if / when it happens.

If you have the cash to go 16GB on the ram I would go for it. I'm finding more and more that my 6 GB is starting to struggle. (websites are getting very big very fast lately I've noticed)
Granted you should see a while before 8GB is max'd out but after you drop in another 8 GB you'll have no-where to go.. And with how long systems are lasting these days you may find that will be the reason you'll end-up upgrading in 4 - 5 years.
If your budget is already being stretched, stick to the 2x4 sticks, if not then try go 2x8GB. Also Ram prices are rising at the mo (first time in a long time that I can remember)
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Old May 17, 2013, 06:20 AM
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Alright thanks for all the advice. This is Where I am at right now with your guys help. Looks like a great rig. Only thing I haven't changed off what I've heard is the mobo. I've done some research and it seems like everyone has either success of complete failure stories of every motherboard i've looked up but if someone can show me something different I'd be more then happy to consider. I'm also pushing the budget here quiet a bit. But keep the feedback coming I'm loving it.


PCPartPicker part list: Intel Core i5-3570, Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition, NZXT Phantom 410 (Black/White) - System Build - PCPartPicker
Price breakdown by merchant: Intel Core i5-3570, Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition, NZXT Phantom 410 (Black/White) - System Build - Price Breakdown By Merchant - PCPartPicker
Benchmarks: Intel Core i5-3570, Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition, NZXT Phantom 410 (Black/White) - System Build - Benchmarks - PCPartPicker

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($194.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($27.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($114.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($229.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.63 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card ($433.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Black/White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($109.84 @ TigerDirect)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($116.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1551.34
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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Old May 17, 2013, 07:02 AM
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The main point I was making on the motherboard is that IF you have a problem, pick a manufacturer that will offer easy fast and cheap way to get it repaired / replaced.

Sending stuff to Cali and back from what I gather can be expensive, especially if you get hit with duty on the way back (which has been a feature of US based RMA horror stories for those north of the border)

As I said, I am biased against Gigabyte but I'm trying to point out anywhere you may have difficulties if you run into problems rather than saying "rara gigashyte sucks",
End of day this is all just advice and decisions are yours to make once your armed with all the knowledge you can get.

Good luck with the build, at 1080 that should last you a good old chunk of time without even needing to bump the GPU for all the shiny to be max'd out for a few years.
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