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Old March 19, 2013, 09:10 AM
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Default $550 Light gaming for a friends mom

Over the summer I threw together a gaming computer for WoW for a bud of mine because his computer was severely lacking. His mother asked me if I could do the same for her, so i've assembled this build which is $565 before price match. Just looking for a second opinion.

Budget: $550 pre tax, pre shipping

Already have: HDD, DVD-burner, peripherals etc.

Use: General use, World of Warcraft.

*Note* The Cpu has to be AMD as I am just moving the hardrive from the one computer to the next and it isn't cost effective to purchase another copy of windows for $90 bucks, otherwise I would have used the i3.

CPU: Phenom II 965: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Quad Core Processor AM3 3.4GHZ 8MB Cache 125W 45NM Retail Box

Mobo: Asus M5A78L-M :ASUS M5A78L-M LX Plus mATX AM3+ DDR3 AMD 760G 1PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 1PCI SATA2 VGA GBLAN Motherboard

Ram: Corsair 8GB 2x4GB : Corsair Vengeance Blue CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B 8GB 2X4GB DDR3-1600 CL9-9-9-24 Dual Channel Memory Kit

Video Card: GTX 650ti :Zotac GeForce GTX 650 Ti 941MHZ 1GB 5.4GHZ GDDR5 2xDVI Mini-HDMI HDCP PCI-E DirectX 11 Video Card

Power Supply: XFX 550W: XFX 550W PRO550W Core Edition Single Rail ATX 12V 44A 24PIN ATX Power Supply 80PLUS Bronze

Case: Bitfenix ATX: Bitfenix Merc Alpha Steel Black ATX Mid Tower Case 3X5.25 7X3.25 1X2.5 *No PS* Top USB2.0 Audio

Any suggestions are more then welcome. The computer only has to run World of Warcraft, my friends mom currently plays it on lowest settings and gets 10-15 fps so graphics aren't even a super big deal. * Playing on a 1600x900 monitor*
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Old March 19, 2013, 09:45 AM
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Any suggestions are more then welcome. The computer only has to run World of Warcraft, my friends mom currently plays it on lowest settings and gets 10-15 fps so graphics aren't even a super big deal. * Playing on a 1600x900 monitor*
Already, what you have there will be a HUGE improvement over what she already has.

Now, this may sound odd, but replace the FX6300 at $151 with an older gen Phenom II 965 @ $110. Not only is it $40 cheaper, you'll get better in-game performance than with the 6300, and it won't consume as much power, either.

I would take some of the money saved and bump the RAM up from 2x2GB sticks to 2x4GB sticks (assuming her existing copy of windows is 64-bit, otherwise I guess you're fine with the 4GB of RAM)
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Already, what you have there will be a HUGE improvement over what she already has.

Now, this may sound odd, but replace the FX6300 at $151 with an older gen Phenom II 965 @ $110. Not only is it $40 cheaper, you'll get better in-game performance than with the 6300, and it won't consume as much power, either.

I would take some of the money saved and bump the RAM up from 2x2GB sticks to 2x4GB sticks (assuming her existing copy of windows is 64-bit, otherwise I guess you're fine with the 4GB of RAM)
I like the idea, I just stuck with the FX-6300 because I put a 965 and a 550Ti in her sons computer and it just seems to be bottlenecking somewhere.
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I like the idea, I just stuck with the FX-6300 because I put a 965 and a 550Ti in her sons computer and it just seems to be bottlenecking somewhere.
That would be the 550Ti, likely. It's not a very powerful card.

I was running a 965 with a 7950, and it was fine.

Honestly, for $100 you can't really go wrong with that processor.
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Sounds good to me, great suggestion! As a little side question, I have a gtx 460 gathering dust in a drawer and was wondering if it would be better then the 550Ti (I would swap cards with him).
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Someone with more experience in the area than me can chime in, but I believe you would be able to go to a non-amd system without re-purchasing windows (you may have to call to get it sorted out though). If that is the case I would go to i5 ($180) a budget board for $80, and drop the graphics card to a gtx 650ti (since she only plays wow and is at a low resolution). That should be around the same price point.

If you decide to stay on the amd side of the fence ncix frequently has the x4 965 on sale for $89.99. And I would personally still use a gtx650ti at her resolution and requirements.

Try and get some 1600mhz ram, since you can usually get it for the same price (or very close).

Amd and nvidia are releasing the hd 7790 and a revised gtx 650ti respectively soon and may be very good options for this build.

Lastly, a gtx 460 is a touch faster than a 550ti, but it won't be night and day.
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Love the suggestion bond! Changed to a 650ti and I found some corsair 1600mhz for cheaper then what I currently had!
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Love the suggestion bond! Changed to a 650ti and I found some corsair 1600mhz for cheaper then what I currently had!
No worries.

And actually the x4 965 is on sale right now for $98 (at ncix you have to go through their sale links to get the sale price...if you just browse the site it usually comes up at regular price).

AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Quad Core Processor AM3 3.4GHZ 8MB Cache 125W 45NM Retail Box

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Sounds good to me, great suggestion! As a little side question, I have a gtx 460 gathering dust in a drawer and was wondering if it would be better then the 550Ti (I would swap cards with him).
Here is a summary chart that includes GTX 550Ti and GTX 460 performance for your info (it has both 768 and 1gb version of the 460):

ZOTAC GeForce GTX 550 Ti AMP! Edition Review | techPowerUp

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And I just found a wrench in your plan. Your selected motherboard only supports up to 95w CPU...does not support the x4 965.

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And I just found a wrench in your plan. Your selected motherboard only supports up to 95w CPU...does not support the x4 965.

ASUS - M5A78L-M LX
Good call, the 12 off of the cpu let me get a slightly more expensive gigabyte board which I used for the sons computer. Total came to the same amount so it works out :D!

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