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Old February 13, 2013, 05:08 PM
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What is your budget? That 610 is a waste of money if you want to play games. It's only good for people that don't have integrated GPU.
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Old February 13, 2013, 05:28 PM
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To all of you, my budget is approx : 425$
I'll mostly watch movies on my computer, may want to play some recent games (I don't expect to play games on High-res)
If anyone of you can help me find the proper parts (I've been told that "DirectCanada" is one of the best website for that), it would be very appreciate
(I like the motherboard / processor that user "JD" proposed, because i have a monitor with DVI support)

AMD A8-5600K APU Quad Core Processor Socket FM2 3.2GHZ 4MB 100W Retail Box
ASUS F2A85-M/CSM mATX FM2 85X FCH DDR3 2PCI-E16 1PCI-E1 1PCI SATA3 DVI HDMI USB3.0 Motherboard - DirectCanada

So i would need:
Tower Case
PSU
Memory (2x4gb)
Hard Drive
Maybe a CD/DVD writer/burner/etc if i have enough money
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Old February 13, 2013, 06:12 PM
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As others said, yes that should be all compatible. Also suggested, go with 2 sticks of dual channel ram to be optimal. Although the onboard VGA maybe similar in power to the 610, you typically see a performance gain with a dedicated card. As far as gaming goes, you would be limited to older games or less than stellar new games. For watching movies, this config should have no problem. With that said, I bought a laptop a couple years ago that had an i5 CPU and onboard VGA. It couldnt play .mkv files for shit (cant remember what socket. I returned it). If you already have the card, fine. But I wouldnt buy it with intentions of gaming. Lowest end I would go if gaming is a GTX650. But then also, will the i3 CPU cut it gaming?

If you havnt already bought the parts, hold off and see what is recommended here. You dont need huge power to watch movies, but some containers such as .mkv demand some processing power. I would go with a S1155 i5 minimum and a dedicated card. A Core2 Duo with 4GB ram will play movies all day long with a GT610. I have two C2D HTPCs running GV-N610SL-1GI GT610 1G cards. No issues playing movies. Hell, a GT420 was playing them no prob in the same machines. I only switched cards because I got the 610s at a great deal and they have passive cooling. The 420s were loud.
I agree that the 610 is low scale. Either JD's APU solution or a better dedicated would suffice.

That being said an i3 coupled with a 650 is more than sufficent for decent gaming at good resolution. Right now my best budget build is around that combo (though I use the 650TI).

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Old February 13, 2013, 06:39 PM
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Old February 13, 2013, 06:42 PM
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Direct Canada is good, but they are ultimately a subsidary of NCIX. You can price match online with NCIX (there's a button at the bottom of the shopping cart page). You just provide the link to the site and the price.

Currently, that APU (CPU) is the cheapest at NCIX at $99 for example. That motherboard is cheapest at Direct Canada currently.

Anyways, my list would look something like this:
APU/CPU - $99.99: AMD A8-5600K APU Quad Core Processor Socket FM2 3.2GHZ 4MB 100W Retail Box
Motherboard - $93.57: ASUS F2A85-M/CSM mATX FM2 85X FCH DDR3 2PCI-E16 1PCI-E1 1PCI SATA3 DVI HDMI USB3.0 Motherboard - DirectCanada
PSU - $47.25: Corsair CX Series CX430M 430W ATX 12V 80 Plus Bronze Modular Power Supply - DirectCanada
Case - $29.99: Bitfenix Merc Alpha Steel Black ATX Mid Tower Case 3X5.25 7X3.25 1X2.5 *No PS* Top USB2.0 Audio
RAM - $46.99: Mushkin Enhanced Silverline Stiletto 8GB 2X4GB PC3-10666 DDR3-1333 9-9-9-24 Dual Channel Memory Kit
HDD - $69.99: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB SATA 6GB/S 7200RPM 64MB Cache 3.5in Hard Drive OEM

Total: $387.78

If you want to spend a little more, I'd find a better case. Not saying that's a bad case, but the expansion slot covers are only 1-time removable (which I hate).
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Old February 13, 2013, 06:51 PM
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Direct Canada is good, but they are ultimately a subsidary of NCIX. You can price match online with NCIX (there's a button at the bottom of the shopping cart page). You just provide the link to the site and the price.

Currently, that APU (CPU) is the cheapest at NCIX at $99 for example. That motherboard is cheapest at Direct Canada currently.

Anyways, my list would look something like this:
APU/CPU - $99.99: AMD A8-5600K APU Quad Core Processor Socket FM2 3.2GHZ 4MB 100W Retail Box
Motherboard - $93.57: ASUS F2A85-M/CSM mATX FM2 85X FCH DDR3 2PCI-E16 1PCI-E1 1PCI SATA3 DVI HDMI USB3.0 Motherboard - DirectCanada
PSU - $47.25: Corsair CX Series CX430M 430W ATX 12V 80 Plus Bronze Modular Power Supply - DirectCanada
Case - $29.99: Bitfenix Merc Alpha Steel Black ATX Mid Tower Case 3X5.25 7X3.25 1X2.5 *No PS* Top USB2.0 Audio
RAM - $46.99: Mushkin Enhanced Silverline Stiletto 8GB 2X4GB PC3-10666 DDR3-1333 9-9-9-24 Dual Channel Memory Kit
HDD - $69.99: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB SATA 6GB/S 7200RPM 64MB Cache 3.5in Hard Drive OEM

Total: $387.78

If you want to spend a little more, I'd find a better case. Not saying that's a bad case, but the expansion slot covers are only 1-time removable (which I hate).
Thx a lot, i see that DirectCanada offers free shipping, NCIX kinda charge a lot in my opinion, but what do you think about this (its all the same except for the RAM and Case:

Corsair XMS3 CMX8GX3M2A1600C9 8GB 2X4GB DDR3-1600 CL9-9-9-27 240PIN Core i5 i7 AMD Memory Kit - DirectCanada

Apex SK-393-C Mid Tower ATX Case Black 4X5.25 1X3.5 5X3.5INT 4 X Front USB 2 X Front Audio No PSU - DirectCanada
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Old February 13, 2013, 06:58 PM
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Direct Canada is good, but they are ultimately a subsidary of NCIX. You can price match online with NCIX (there's a button at the bottom of the shopping cart page). You just provide the link to the site and the price.

Currently, that APU (CPU) is the cheapest at NCIX at $99 for example. That motherboard is cheapest at Direct Canada currently.

Anyways, my list would look something like this:
APU/CPU - $99.99: AMD A8-5600K APU Quad Core Processor Socket FM2 3.2GHZ 4MB 100W Retail Box
Motherboard - $93.57: ASUS F2A85-M/CSM mATX FM2 85X FCH DDR3 2PCI-E16 1PCI-E1 1PCI SATA3 DVI HDMI USB3.0 Motherboard - DirectCanada
PSU - $47.25: Corsair CX Series CX430M 430W ATX 12V 80 Plus Bronze Modular Power Supply - DirectCanada
Case - $29.99: Bitfenix Merc Alpha Steel Black ATX Mid Tower Case 3X5.25 7X3.25 1X2.5 *No PS* Top USB2.0 Audio
RAM - $46.99: Mushkin Enhanced Silverline Stiletto 8GB 2X4GB PC3-10666 DDR3-1333 9-9-9-24 Dual Channel Memory Kit
HDD - $69.99: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB SATA 6GB/S 7200RPM 64MB Cache 3.5in Hard Drive OEM

Total: $387.78

If you want to spend a little more, I'd find a better case. Not saying that's a bad case, but the expansion slot covers are only 1-time removable (which I hate).
The Merc works, but its paper thin and has less than optimal cooling. So I agree, otherwise you built quite the setup there.

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Old February 14, 2013, 11:09 AM
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That Zalman and Antec case fall into the same "cheap quality" like the Bitfenix Merc in my opinion at least.

If you don't mind rebates (and bright blue): MSI Interceptor Series Ravager ATX Mid Tower Case 3X5.25 6X3.5INT 2X120MM USB3.0 *No PS*

Or: Cooler Master HAF 912 Black Mid Tower ATX Case 4X5.25 1X3.5 6X3.5INT No PS Front USB Sound

Or: Corsair Carbide Series 200R Black Gaming Case ATX 3X5.25 4X3.5 Front USB3.0 Audio No PSU - DirectCanada

Either sets of RAM would be fine. And the motherboard will come with SATA cables. Nothing you need to buy extra.
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Old February 14, 2013, 04:53 PM
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That Zalman and Antec case fall into the same "cheap quality" like the Bitfenix Merc in my opinion at least.

If you don't mind rebates (and bright blue): MSI Interceptor Series Ravager ATX Mid Tower Case 3X5.25 6X3.5INT 2X120MM USB3.0 *No PS*

Or: Cooler Master HAF 912 Black Mid Tower ATX Case 4X5.25 1X3.5 6X3.5INT No PS Front USB Sound

Or: Corsair Carbide Series 200R Black Gaming Case ATX 3X5.25 4X3.5 Front USB3.0 Audio No PSU - DirectCanada

Either sets of RAM would be fine. And the motherboard will come with SATA cables. Nothing you need to buy extra.
Another quick question, the RAMs are 1.65v, is it really that "bad" as some people say compare to 1.5v ?
(And considering the setup i have?)

EDIT : Should i go with the Corsair Vengeance 2x4gb 1600mhz at 1.5v ?

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