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Old December 28, 2012, 11:55 PM
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Hey!

I don't know if I should buy a new computer or simply change a few parts so I figured I could get help from experts

This is my computer :
2 year old
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
Monitor Model: BenQ G2255 (shittiest monitor i ever got)
Display: 1920 x 1080
System Model: Gigabyte GA-MA790X-UD4P
Processor : AMD phenom II x3 720 BE 3.0ghz no OC
Memory: G.Skill 4096MB PC2-8500 (i believe it runs slower than it should 533mhz according to cpuz)
Card name: ATI Radeon HD 4890 1gb
Hard drive: 2x WD 640gb caviar green in raid 0 (also have a 500gb usb3 that goes with my laptop)

Rated 5,9 on windows experience index haha! xD
Case, sound system, cd/dvd, etc. is not really worth mentionning.

This is what I use the computer for :
Mostly watching steaming and gaming (diablo 3, dayz, warz, hon, sc2, battlefield 3, me3...) I also do some photoshop/illustrator and video editing.

This is the problems :
1. Compared to newer cpus, mine feel chubby and slow. I simply can't run new games on the highest settings w/o some lag and long loading times (I even get lags while playing diablo 3 at highest but again maybe the game is just @ :).
2. My computer is getting old, there is weird stuff happening time to time. Ex : my monitor would suddently turn off, i would then need switch it to the other hdmi socket on my gfx and it would work again. Altrought, maybe a fresh windows install would fix all that... Im starting to think that someday it'll go "poof" with black smoke X)
4. I hate my monitor it takes 10s to 20s to boot and the brightness sucks for any "night time" gameplay (its all white I can't see anything!)

So....
I think (i would like you input on this) I can sell the whole setting for around 1000$ to 1200$ if I'm lucky.

With that money can I buy a better rig or is it better to change some parts? What would be the changes? (add a SSD? add 4gb Ram? buy a new graphic card or go crossfire? overclock? tweak some things (I really don't know wich ones tho?)

Any input is very much appreciated.

Thank you!

(sorry for the bad english)

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Old December 29, 2012, 02:10 AM
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Sell the whole thing for $500 if your lucky

I would try a bit of a re-fresh first.. Re-install windows etc, drop in a ssd and see how it performs.
If you still want more performance then drop in a new GPU, if still unhappy with monitor replace that too.

If after these you find that you still want more, sell the old rig and buy whatever else you need for a new rig beyond the ssd / gpu or whatever else you get
(I wouldn't buy anything that will be poor for a new build but make sure that it will give benefit in the old one too)
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Old December 29, 2012, 06:15 AM
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With that budget I would sell and start from scratch.
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Old December 29, 2012, 07:28 AM
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Unless you part out, you will not sell that computer for 400$. But you could fix it:

- ditch those Caviar Greens in Raid 0. They are not made to be OS drives, nor in a Raid 0 setup. They are data drives. Find a cheap 120Gb SSD, and re-install Windows.
- time to upgrade that 4890. Either Team Red with a 7850HD, or Team Green with a GTX 560Ti. Just make sure your PSU can take either (which you did not list).

And for that rig I would not buy new parts - used components would be perfect.
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Old December 29, 2012, 10:31 AM
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Okay, a few new parts would be nice...

AMD Phenom II X4 965 BE Processor @ 3.4GHZ - $87.99
XFX Radeon HD7870 Core Edition - $229.99
Crucial M4 128GB SSD - $117.99
Samsung 23.6" LED Monitor - 1920x1080 - $139.99

Total: $575.96, and you'll have a snappy, capable machine, capable of running any game at max settings for some time to come.
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Old December 30, 2012, 01:43 PM
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So, I got a few offers for the above listed build and decided to sell it and buy something new.

I would really like some input on the following build.

Is everything fitting correctly?
Can I get better parts for less money?

I'll buy in less than 48 hours, any advice is very highly welcome!

Antec Three Hundred Two Mid Tower Gaming Case 302 ATX 3X5.25 6X3.5INT No PS Front USB3.0 & Audio
Usually ships in 1-2 business days. In Stock 67326 $69.98 $69.98 Price Match request for the above item
Competitor's price: $50.89, source url: Antec Three Hundred Two Mid Tower Gaming Case 302 ATX 3X5.25 6X3.5INT No PS Front USB3.0 & Audio - DirectCanada
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$50.89 $50.89

AMD FX-8320 8 Core Processor Socket AM3+ 3.5GHZ 16MB 125W Retail Box
Usually ships in 1-2 business days. Limit to 2 per customer.
In Stock 76933 $159.99 $159.99

Samsung S24B300HL 23.6IN Widescreen LED LCD Monitor Black 1920x1080 5M:1 5MS HDMI VGA
Usually ships in 1-2 business days. Add EXPRESS COVERAGE What's this? ($7.00)
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In Stock 69304 $139.99 $139.99

Kingston HyperX KHX1600C9D3K2/8GX 8GB 2X4GB DDR3-1600 XMP Dual Channel Memory Kit
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In Stock 57869 $39.99 $79.98 Price Match request for the above item
Competitor's price: $22.98, source url: KHX1600C9D3B1K2/4GX, Kingston at LOW PRICE from Hookbag! 0740617174038

OCZ Vertex 3 120GB 2.5in SATA3 6Gbps SandForce SF-2281 Solid State Disk Flash Drive SSD
Usually ships in 1-2 business days. In Stock 59354 $129.99 $129.99 Price Match request for the above item
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$109.99 $109.99

MSI Radeon HD 7870 OC Twin Frozr III 1050MHZ 2GB 4.8GHZ GDDR5 DVI HDMI 2XMINIDP PCI-E Video Card
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In Stock 69586 $239.99 $239.99

Corsair Gaming Series CMPSU-700G GS700 700w ATX Power Supply Active PFC 140mm Fan *3 Year Wrty*
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In Stock 59909 $69.99 $69.99

ASUS M5A97 R2.0 AMD970/SB950 ATX AM3+ DDR3 2PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 SATA3 USB3.0 CrossFireX Motherboard
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total price : 1007$
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Old December 31, 2012, 10:14 AM
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Any advice on the build listed above?

thx!
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Old December 31, 2012, 12:18 PM
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Go with this PSU...

Corsair TX650 V2 650W ATX 12V Single Rail 60A 24PIN ATX Power Supply Active PFC 80PLUS Bronze

or this one...

XFX 750W PRO750W Core Edition Single Rail ATX 12V 62A 24PIN ATX Power Supply 80PLUS Bronze PSU

The rest of the parts all look good. Do you care about case wiring at all? The only drawback to the Antec 300 is it's lack of space between the back panel and case. It's hard to do a good wiring job with that case. You may want to look into the HAF 912. If you're not fussy about how the inside looks, then by all means the Antec 300 is great case for your build.

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Old December 31, 2012, 01:31 PM
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Are you keeping your old hard drive or getting another one? All those games + OS + apps + whatever you do with Photoshop won't fit on 120GB.
The 700W is a bit much unless you plan to add more GPUs. A 600W is plenty even for overclocking.
Otherwise it's looking good.
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Old December 31, 2012, 02:09 PM
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Yes! I already have a usb 3.0 500gb laying around :)

the 700w was cheaper than any 600w i found so i figured i would take this one the reviews i read all said it was good quality... freeloader1969/anyone any reason i should switch psu?
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