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Old November 24, 2012, 07:14 AM
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Hello and thank you for your help! o/
I am currently playing GW2 and my old computer is not up to the task. I love to play BUT i dont have as much time as I'd like so I dont need an ULTIMATE system. I need something that will allow me to play the game smoothly while multitasking on the background (such as browser open, music playing, TS or skype).
Other than games, I just use my computer to download and watch movies, browse the internet and that's pretty much it!
Oh, another BIG thing for me is the update cycle: I want something that will last me for more than 2, 3 years and will still run, like my last build.
Would love to hear your ideas for a new build as I am COMPLETELY lost with so much technology since the last time I build a system (I build for myself and just for fun/to save money)

1. What YOUR PC will be used for.
Mainly gaming but I multi-task a lot and I need the response to be reasonably fast.

2. What YOUR budget is.
I'd be really comfortable at around 400 to 500 all in BUT since speaking to you guys here, I am willing to spend more money for a solid build.

3. What country YOU will be buying YOUR parts from.
Toronto, Ontario - Canada

4. IF YOU have a brand preference.
No preference. Leaning towards Intel processors

5. If YOU intend on using any of YOUR current parts, and if so, what those parts are.
Reusing all peripherals and OS.

6. IF YOU have searched and/or read similar threads.
I have and couldnt find a good balance between price/quality. Havent built a system in far too long and I'm overwhelmed by the options.

7. IF YOU plan on overclocking or run the system at default speeds.
Dont plan to but I'm willing to.

8. WHEN do you plan to build it?
Havent bought anything yet but will as soon as I decide.

9. What resolution and settings do you use?
Medium to high is fine. My current system is REALLY old and it's running on the lowest for GW2.

10. Are there any specific technologies you want?
Nothing specific. I was reading about SSD and wondering if it would be worth it. Would love to hear opinions.

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Old November 25, 2012, 04:13 AM
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You're better off going with AMD; their APU (CPU/GPU hybrid) lines offer amazing value/performance for gaming on-the-budget. I was just going to suggest that you buy the A10-5800K paired with 2133mhz ram, since the GPU on the 5800K uses system ram, it is absolutely necessary that you buy high frequency ram to get the most out of it. But since NCIX is selling the HD 6670 for about $50.00 (almost as much as the 2133mhz ram), it would be better to get lower frequency ram and crossfire the A10-5800K with the 6670.

Review: AMD A10-5800K Dual Graphics evaluation - CPU - HEXUS.net - Page 3

AMD Trinity A10-5800K Review | Pure Overclock

As you can see in the reviews above, performance is pretty beast for the price. I was looking over the requirements (Wikipedia) for GW2, and they don't look very demanding; I'm confident you'll be able to play at max settings at high frames with the build below.

Motherboard:

ASRock FM2A75 PRO4-M mATX FM2 A75 FCH DDR3 2PCI-E16 1PCI-E1 1PCI SATA3 HDMI DVI USB3.0 Motherboard

CPU:

AMD A10-5800K APU Quad Core Processor Socket FM2 3.8GHZ 4MB 100W Retail Box

RAM:

Corsair Vengeance Blue CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B 8GB 2X4GB DDR3-1600 CL9-9-9-24 Dual Channel Memory Kit

Video Card:

MSI Radeon HD 6670 800MHZ 2GB 1.3GHZ GDDR3 DVI HDMI VGA PCI-E Video Card

PSU:

Corsair CX Series CX500 500W ATX 12V 80 Plus Bronze Power Supply 140mm Fan

Case:

Fractal Design Core 3000 Black ATX Mid Tower Gaming Computer Case 2X5.25 6X3.5INT No PS Front USB

or

Corsair Carbide Series 300R Black Gaming Case ATX 3X5.25 4X3.5 Front USB Audio No PSU

or

Fractal Design Core 1000 mATX Computer Case

Total + Tax (so far): $390.00 (give or take, depending on your case choice)

At this point you have around $110.00 - $120.00 left (again, depending on your case choice) for an SSD or aftermarket CPU cooler (not both). I personally think that an SSD is one of the best upgrades you can do for a PC (I'm assuming you're using an old HD for storage), but it's not absolutely necessary. Since you might not be that interested in overclocking, the SSD is the way to go. You can use the stock heatsink for now and save for an aftermarket CPU cooler later, should you feel the need to. However, if you don't much care for the over all snappiness & boot-time of the system, and you want to squeeze as much as you can out of the system for performance, NCIX is having a huge sale on closed loop liquid coolers.

SSD:

Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5in SATA3 MDX Solid State Disk Flash Drive SSD

CPU Cooler:

Corsair Cooling Hydro Series H60 CPU Cooler System LGA1155 1366 1156 2011 AM2 AM3 FM1 & FM2

Grand total + Tax:

w/ SSD: $495-$510
w/ CPU Cooler: $465-$485

I tried to avoid finding parts that have mail-in-rebates cause they're a pain in the *** to deal with, but that's the only way you're gonna get super deals on good products right now.
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Old November 25, 2012, 07:07 AM
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Good parts suggestions above. However, I would go intel over AMD for the better fps. I would say i3 3220/ B75 or H77 based motherboard of your choice, and hd 7770 or 7850. Should keep you under your budget cap...there won't be an ssd, however you will get better FPS in games than the a10 build above.
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Old November 25, 2012, 06:14 PM
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Bond's right about the intel choice, but just a heads up you're not gonna get a quad core (which will improve heavy multi-tasking you stated wanted above) if you go with the intel i3 (dual core).

PS. Go with H77.
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Old November 26, 2012, 07:05 AM
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Okay, great. Now, question. Do you guys think it would be worth it to invest a bit more money and get a quad core intel processor and then not have to worry about upgrading for a little longer?
And how much do you think that would be?
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Old November 26, 2012, 07:56 AM
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Yes. buying an APU + a dedicated video card is not the best. You won't actually need the APU GPU ,so well,i would suggest a 150-200$ intel CPU,for sure...Like an I5 2500 or 2400...
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Old November 26, 2012, 09:21 AM
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The i5 2500 is the one I had in mind after doing some research.. Just wasnt sure if I should really go for it. What would be the best build if I do decide to go with it? Suggestions?
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Old November 26, 2012, 05:01 PM
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Okay, great. Now, question. Do you guys think it would be worth it to invest a bit more money and get a quad core intel processor and then not have to worry about upgrading for a little longer?
And how much do you think that would be?

If its worth more money is up to you. I would stick with the 3xxx from intel as the prices of the 2xxx aren't that much cheaper and are a touch more power hungry and slower. i3 3220 is on sale for $110 and an i5 3470 is $180. i5 3450 have been on sale for $150 for the last little while as well.
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Old November 26, 2012, 05:09 PM
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remember you could always overclock your apu and videocard is you go amd. but with the intel 3xxx non k you can't overclock
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remember you could always overclock your apu and videocard is you go amd. but with the intel 3xxx non k you can't overclock

you can, for i5 and i7 but only 400mhz if its on a z77 motherboard.
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