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Old October 22, 2012, 09:57 PM
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1. What YOUR PC will be used for. That means what types of tasks you'll be performing.
Gaming and word processing

2. What YOUR budget is. A price range is acceptable as long as it's not more than a 20% spread
$1000 after tax max and a keyboard must be included.

3. What country YOU will be buying YOUR parts from.
Canada specifically NCIX

4. IF YOU have a brand preference.
No brand preference.

5. If YOU intend on using any of YOUR current parts, and if so, what those parts are.
I'm going to lend him my optical drive for the windows install otherwise it is starting from scratch.

6. IF YOU have searched and/or read similar threads.
Read pretty much all of them lol

7. IF YOU plan on overclocking or run the system at default speeds.
Only the GPU for now and it will be fairly mild.

8. WHEN do you plan to build it?
ASAP his laptop crapped the bed but I want to wait for Vishera reviews.

9. What resolution and settings do you use?
1920x1080 and graphics settings will be high

10. Are there any specific technologies you want?
Just PCI-E 3.0 and USB 3.0

Here is what I have so far:

CPU i5 2500k $200
Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM 64MB SATA 6Gbps 3.5IN Internal Hard Drive - OEM

mobo MSI Z77a-g41 $90 - $15 MIR
MSI Z77A-G41 ATX LGA1155 Z77 DDR3 2PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 2PCI SATA3 DVI HDMI CrossFireX USB3.0 Motherboard

Seagate 1TB barracuda $68
Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM 64MB SATA 6Gbps 3.5IN Internal Hard Drive - OEM

G.Skill 8GB 1600 mhz CL9 $35
G.SKILL Ripjaws X F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL 8GB 2X4GB DDR3-1600 CL9-9-9-24 Memory

XFX 550w Bronze PSU $60 - $10 MIR
XFX 550W PRO550W Core Edition Single Rail ATX 12V 44A 24PIN ATX Power Supply 80PLUS Bronze

Zalman z11 plus $50
Zalman Z11 ATX Mid Tower Case Black 4X5.25 1X3.5 5X3.5INT No PS Front USB & Audio - DirectCanada

HD 7870 $238 - $20 MIR
XFX Radeon HD 7870 Double D 1000MHZ 2GB 4.8GHZ GDDR5 DVI HDMI 2XMINIDP PCI-E Video Card

Keyboard $69 Cherry MX-Black switches
Cherry G80-3800 Black Switch MX-BOARD 2.0 104 Key Mechanical Keyboard Black

Total $810

After tax $915 - $45 MIR

I would like to find him a slightly bigger PSU and squeeze in an SSD but I don't think it will happen unless Vishera is a winner (even 10% performance increase over Phenom II would do).
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Old October 24, 2012, 10:48 AM
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I will take the silence as a compliment that I have done a good job. The case has been changed to a Bitfenix Shinobi Black with a window.
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Old October 24, 2012, 10:56 AM
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yeppers. smart build. might argue against the Seagate, but at that price why not eh?
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Old October 24, 2012, 11:52 AM
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vishera was in fact a 20 % increase over the previous fx chip ... BUT given the price on the board you have there it would probly make the build another $50 more or so for a good 990fx board ... thought my board did yesterday have a bios update for the new vishera cpu's & are rather low in price.

Looks good otherwise, but would look at at least a 650 for some wiggleroom on future upgrade's
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Old October 24, 2012, 12:22 PM
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vishera was in fact a 20 % increase over the previous fx chip ... BUT given the price on the board you have there it would probly make the build another $50 more or so for a good 990fx board ... thought my board did yesterday have a bios update for the new vishera cpu's & are rather low in price.

Looks good otherwise, but would look at at least a 650 for some wiggleroom on future upgrade's
Yeah I was hoping for a little more from Vishera I know it's high hopes but gaming performance (particularly in GW2) is too far behind to consider picking one up.

I wanted a 600-650 watt PSU but I couldn't find a good price on one.
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Yeah I was hoping for a little more from Vishera I know it's high hopes but gaming performance (particularly in GW2) is too far behind to consider picking one up.

I wanted a 600-650 watt PSU but I couldn't find a good price on one.
Well as someone whom also wants to play gw2 ... IF the muti threading demand is there from the game engine whats to sugests that vishera wouldnt do well in it ? Just to add here toms is the only 1 doin any testing around it .... if anything preformance scales with clocks it seems on either amd or intel chip though in the article it was done with old bulldozer cpu's & not the new ones ...

You also looked thru ncix's recent sale thing ? thought I seen a 600 watter + for around $60 in it ....

Actualy ... this does have a rebate on it but would still be cheap: XFX 750W PRO750W Core Edition Single Rail ATX 12V 62A 24PIN ATX Power Supply 80PLUS Bronze PSU

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Old October 24, 2012, 01:26 PM
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It is definitely good to go as is. My comments to consider would be:
1. going to a 3570k vice 2500k (only marginally faster, but if the price difference you find when ordering is minimal I would go with the 3570k.
2. The motherboard is a low end z77 that likely will not give you a crazy overclock. If you want to do serious OCing go for something a bit higher end, but otherwise it is fine as long as it has the features you want/need.
3. If you will not overclock save some money and go for an i5 2400/3450/3470/3550
4. I am not familiar with the case, so that's your call

That's all I got. Nothing big, just some point to think about if you haven't already. Build and enjoy.
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Old October 24, 2012, 07:21 PM
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It is definitely good to go as is. My comments to consider would be:
1. going to a 3570k vice 2500k (only marginally faster, but if the price difference you find when ordering is minimal I would go with the 3570k.
2. The motherboard is a low end z77 that likely will not give you a crazy overclock. If you want to do serious OCing go for something a bit higher end, but otherwise it is fine as long as it has the features you want/need.
3. If you will not overclock save some money and go for an i5 2400/3450/3470/3550
4. I am not familiar with the case, so that's your call

That's all I got. Nothing big, just some point to think about if you haven't already. Build and enjoy.
I don't think the 3570k is worth the extra money ($20 at the time), once over clocked a bit the heat difference will make up for it a bit.

I will probably end up overclocking it eventually but it won't be anything big... Should be able to hit 4.2ghz on the board easy (I hit 4.2 on mine and it is m-atx and cheap).

I haven't personally worked with the case before but I have a friend who had NCIX assemble a build in it and it looks really nice and functional.

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Well as someone whom also wants to play gw2 ... IF the muti threading demand is there from the game engine whats to sugests that vishera wouldnt do well in it ? Just to add here toms is the only 1 doin any testing around it .... if anything preformance scales with clocks it seems on either amd or intel chip though in the article it was done with old bulldozer cpu's & not the new ones ...

You also looked thru ncix's recent sale thing ? thought I seen a 600 watter + for around $60 in it ....

Actualy ... this does have a rebate on it but would still be cheap: XFX 750W PRO750W Core Edition Single Rail ATX 12V 62A 24PIN ATX Power Supply 80PLUS Bronze PSU
GW2 in general works much better on intel chips. My i5 2500k at 3.3 runs about 10fps higher than my friends PII 980 @4.2. It will use a lot of threads but for some reason the game just loves intel. I have not seen vishera benchmarks in GW2 however I can't see them being more than 10% better than phenom II which still leaves it about 6-7% behind my i5 2500k although I would love to send some business AMD's way it is tough to squeeze out a constant 60 fps with any processor so I would like to get the best I can find.

I considered that PSU but my friend said he is never going to go SLI and it is a good one at a very good price after rebate but he is not fond of the MIR. I will see if I can push it to him though because I also think it is a good idea "just in case".

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Old October 25, 2012, 11:19 PM
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Order just went out, he didn't bite on the PSU but he did end up picking up the i5 3570k.

Also some low profile Kingston RAM 1600mhz CL9 1.5v went on sale so I picked that up instead just in case he wants to install a big cooler down the road.

Also ended up with a MSI TFIII OC HD 7870, RMA center in Canada and good cooler for $2 I'll take it any day.

Since I put my own computer together everyone keeps coming to me for new computers. If this keeps up I might have to start charging people.
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