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HigginsHere September 22, 2012 02:06 PM

Advice&help on first build (Budget gaming/casual)
 
I really appreciate anyone who will have taken the time to read this and especially then proceeded helped me out. Thank you in advance.

So this is my first computer build. I started working on it earlier in the year, and then put a hiatus on it. I came back to it with a better idea of what my specifications were; I think that it's basically done, but I need some advice and help. My questions are further down this post.

Why I'm doing this: I've heard that building a custom computer is or can be cheaper than buying one with the same specs via retail. It's time for a new computer, and a nice one (at least compared to the ones I've had [two]) at that.

What I'm going for: I don't really know if I want to be a PC gamer, but I want to try it. It would make sense because with Steam I can get amazing deals and play games easily. If I really enjoy PC gaming, I want to be able to continue to game on the PC in decent game settings, but I don't need the best. I would do school work on it and open a massive amount of Chrome tabs. I would multitask with Photo Shop, and a lot of other programs. I would like to be able to upgrade my computer in the future. I use my computer a lot and would like just a nice experience to the extent that my budget allows me.

Ideal price: $700 hopefully including shipping and taxes, not including warranty (Almost fully fixed budget. Give [only if you think something's really worth it] or take [ha, I wish] 20 dollars).

I'm buying from the USA.

I do not have any brand preference as long as my build can get done what I would like.

I might intend on using my current 500gb HDD as well as the one that I list in my custom build/rig. I don't know what it is in regards to name or company. I'm going to be using my DAS mechanical keyboard, my own mouse, speakers, and I'm not sure what I'm going to do about my OS. I'm also not sure about a monitor, and I'll go into detail with that later in this post.

I don't have much knowledge about overclocking. Should I do it? Do I need to? Can I for my budget?

I plan to hopefully build it within the month of December, and buy the parts from now until early December. I've not bought any parts yet.

I would like to be able to play games in high, but I don't know if I'll be able to with my budget and what I am asking for. I don't have any hopes for ultra. Resolution would hopefully be around 1920x1080, I don't really know.

I'd like an SSD if I can. Actually, I want the best of anything and everything that I can get with my budget. I do realize that my budget is rather low for what I would like. I will deal with what I can get.


Here's my custom rig and the questions that follow (all compiled via Newegg):

CPU/Processor: AMD FX-6100 Zambezi 3.3GHz Socket AM3+ 95W Six-Core Desktop Processor FD6100WMGUSBX
Model #:FD6100WMGUSBX
Item #:N82E16819103962

Graphics card: EVGA 01G-P3-1556-KR GeForce GTX 550 Ti (Fermi) FPB 1GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
Model #:01G-P3-1556-KR
Item #:N82E16814130625

Motherboard: ASUS M5A97 R2.0 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
Model #:M5A97 R2.0
Item #:N82E16813131873

Computer case: COOLER MASTER HAF 912 RC-912-KKN1 Black SECC/ ABS Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Model #:RC-912-KKN1
Item #:N82E16811119233

RAM/memory: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL
Model #:F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL
Item #:N82E16820231314

HDD: Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Model #:ST1000DM003
Item #:N82E16822148840

SSD (essentially for speedy boot up): OCZ Solid 3 SLD3-25SAT3-60G 2.5" 60GB SATA III MLC
Model #:SLD3-25SAT3-60G
Item #:N82E16820227728

DVD Burner: ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
Model #:DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS
Item #:N82E16827135204

PSU: OCZ ModXStream Pro 700W Modular High Performance Power Supply compatible with Intel Sandybridge Core i3 i5 i7 and AMD Phenom
Model #:OCZ700MXSP
Item #:N82E16817341018

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Questions:

1) Is there anything I should add, remove, or replace?
2) Were some or all of these parts fairly well selected?
3) Is everything compatible with each other?
4) Will everything fit well together?
5a) Is it highly recommended that I use a aftermarket heatsink & fan?
5b) If so, would it be okay if I used the stock and then eventually replaced it with an aftermarket heatsink & fan, or would that be too much of a hassle?
6) Although my current computer is a pain to use (not unbearable), would you highly recommend waiting until I have a higher budget (I'm a 17 year old with no job, so this might be hard to do), or is my budget all right?
7) Would the following idea be fine, or would this conflict with my current setup: when I get the money, I'll buy 2 sticks of 8gb ddr3 1600 ram from whoever would be the best to buy from, and add it to the current memory that I will already have.
8) Do you have a better idea in regards to the previous question?
9) Is there anything else I should know that I haven't asked about?

These parts are all compiled into a wishlist via Newegg, and so it would be helpful if any parts that were recommended were available through such. BUT if you think that I can get better parts or other parts for a better price, I'm open to suggestions.

Monitor:

I like this one that my brother has: ViewSonic VX2450wm-LED - 24" w/ Stereo speakers
But my ideal budget for a monitor would be 150. I like the idea of big and high quality. I don't need any speakers on it. I wasn't planning on asking any advice for a monitor, but I figured why not?

Misc questions:

10) What's your opinion on leaving a desktop pc on for an extended period of time? Is it fine?
11) Should I just forget about all of this and buy a retail pre-manufactured desktop pc?

Although I would appreciate as many questions being answered as possible, if you want or can only answer a select few, I would still appreciate it. 1-9 are more important than the final two questions.

Again, thank you so much to whoever answers any of my questions. I really do appreciate it. Have a wonderful day.

Shadowmeph September 22, 2012 02:22 PM

there is a couple of things like do you need a monitor keyboard mouse, Operating system? and which types of games and at which resolution? I probably would buy a different Video card if you game .I always use aftermarker cpu cooling and I pretty much have my PC on 24/7.
I would hold off for maybe a month or two because if I remember correctly AMD is coming out with a new CPU so it could be better price or it might cause the other CPUs to drop in price a little bit. myself I usually buy from the forums here becasue a few people like the brand new things and end up selling a few things at decent prices so maybe look around the buy and sell section and possibly safe a few bucks.

HigginsHere September 22, 2012 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadowmeph (Post 657312)
there is a couple of things like do you need a monitor keyboard mouse, Operating system? and which types of games and at which resolution? I probably would buy a different Video card if you game .I always use aftermarker cpu cooling and I pretty much have my PC on 24/7.
I would hold off for maybe a month or two because if I remember correctly AMD is coming out with a new CPU so it could be better price or it might cause the other CPUs to drop in price a little bit. myself I usually buy from the forums here becasue a few people like the brand new things and end up selling a few things at decent prices so maybe look around the buy and sell section and possibly safe a few bucks.

I updated my post before realizing you responded, but now it has some of the information that you asked. Thank you very much for your advice and response.

MARSTG September 23, 2012 05:47 PM

the mobo si nice, keep it, has good VRM cooling
but the CPU I would go with a cheaper Phenom II X4 BE, newegg.com has some amazing deals under 100$ for them. Take one now and you will have upgrade path open later for Vishera FX with your mobo.
Take a nice cooling HSF, I would go with the CM 212 EVO.
Power Supply drop the OCZ ModXtream which is an old design and go something modern and single rail, preferably Seasonic OEM like Corsair HX or XFX Core , the 650W model is a good choice.
Take a fast memory kit, newegg.com Item#: N82E16820231455 is a 1866MHz kit, the max supported by your mobo.
The HDD you chose is very fast most probably will be faster than the slow SSD you chose, you might want to drop that SSD completely. You want a good SSD, go Intel, any SATA III model would cut the mustard.
Case is nice, has perforated bottom, ideal for PSU taking in cold air and expelling it from the PC without heating the inside of the PC even more.
The GTX 550 will let you game at 1920x1080 but without FSAA, if you want FSAA at that resolution think more along the lines of a GTX 560 Ti or maybe a used GTX 480 or a used GTX 570.

Bond007 September 23, 2012 06:28 PM

I would agree with you case, ram, memory, burner, and hard drive. Other than that I would change the rest. I would get a decent z77 based motherboard and an i3 2100 or 2120, change the power supply to a quality 550 to650 w unit, use the stock cooler, drop the ssd and go up to a 660ti. This will give you substantially better fps. Intel offer higher gaming performance than amd and lower power consumption with the option to upgrade CPU later. The 60 gb ssd is too small, so I would drop it until funds permit atleast a 120gb.


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