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davecessna September 3, 2012 04:32 PM

Quasi-entry level "performance" pc
I've been following these forums for a while, you guys seem patient with new kids on the block (don't shoot me).

Long story short, finished university, entered job market, have a bit of money, always wanted to try this, hopefully will save money short and long term compared to buying a prefab Dell. Needs would encompass some gaming (not looking for multi gpu level performance, but still enough to enjoy latest titles, flight simulation (training for another expensive hobby). Hopefully whatever I build will stand a reasonable test of time. My company gets discounts with Dell, and I was looking at a XPS 8500 with a 24inch monitor but it was still running about 1440, plus tax with basic warranty. Also, I know damn well I'd be kicking myself if I bought another Dell product. I'm moving back to PC's after buying an XPS m1530 for my degree and thanking various gods that I had the complete/accidental warranty as I had to send it in for servicing 4 times (the nvidia 8600m would fry itself).

I was smart enough to find this unbelievably handy website and used it to create a mock system:
Intel Core i5-3570K, Asus Radeon HD 7870, Cooler Master HAF 912 - System Build - PCPartPicker Canada

I'm sold on the 24inch monitor, we upgraded to them at work (Dell U2412) and I'm going to spoil myself on the sheer hilarious massive viewing space.

I'm willing to spend the money to go the Intel route, my last AMD was the good ol' AMD K6-2 with 3Dnow!(!)

This would do for budget, I'm looking for future upgrade potential (even bare minimum of having a decent case). I went the -K processor route to keep overclocking an option, but I don't think I would need an i7. My question is, am I missing something (I already have the OS... keyboard and mouse I'm not worried about). I know the focus these days is on the SSD, is this something that people strongly recommend immediately or can I throw one in and re-partition everything later on. 8 gigs of ram should be enough for anything I do, we run 8 at the office for extremely heavy CAD work and it is more than adequate. Honestly, any suggestions/criticisms would be appreciated, I'm all ears.

This blob of text still seems extremely fragmented as I'm desperately trying not to sound like a tool, despite several edits. Thanks in advance, and it's great to be finally making the cherry popper post.

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3.0charlie September 3, 2012 04:58 PM

Interesting website I did not know about. Thanks for sharing.

I would not skimp on a HSF - the stock offerings do really suck. I'm still in favor of the Coolermaster Hyper 212+.
Why choose such a MB? There are cheaper ones, like this MSI: MSI Z77A-G41 ATX LGA1155 Z77 DDR3 2PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 2PCI SATA3 DVI HDMI CrossFireX USB3.0 Motherboard - MSI/MicroStar - Z77A-G41
Then go for a 120Gb SSD, which are becoming dirt-cheap these days.

edit: similar configuration as yours, for 23$ more you get a Hyper 212+ AND an Intel 520 120Gb SSD. :punk:
Intel Core i5-3570K, MSI Radeon HD 7870, Cooler Master HAF 912 - System Build - PCPartPicker Canada

davecessna September 3, 2012 08:45 PM

Thanks Charlie, that MSI board has everything I would need for 100 bucks less.

Even with the ssd the whole thing is cheaper than a dell on discount. And for what? A few hours of building and setup.

Anywho thanks a load.

davecessna September 4, 2012 05:17 AM

I'm having doubts about the monitor after having read the Newegg customer feedback. About 90% of them are complaining about dead pixels and a horrible RMA process. Any other suggestions for a decent 24inch monitor? I'd like to explore other options before considering a 300$+ U2412m.

-Wolverine- September 4, 2012 05:42 AM

What about LG IPS231P?
It isn't 24'' but then again Asus that you have selected is also 16:9 1920x1080 so you'll have identical working space. Also LG uses better e-IPS panel while Asus uses cheap TN. Plus LG offers height adjustment and swiveling option.

But if you want 24'' for that price, check BenQ GW2450HM with 16:9 1920x1080 A-MVA panel but without height adjustment and swiveling option.

zypho September 4, 2012 05:49 AM

Nope I love the U2412M, have 2 at work, 1 at home and just ordered a 2nd one at home and soon to order a 3rd! They are great monitors. If you watch them you can get them on sale for $289, bought both of mine at that price. For the 1920x1200 resolution alone they are the best bang for buck, the panels are great. No issues with them what so ever.

Keep in mind 90% of the people who post reviews on new egg are the 10% of people who do run into issues. Its hard now days to find quality reviews on sites like that. Hense why review sites like HWC is so popular. Plus Dell has a dam good warranty so you should be fine either way.

486 September 4, 2012 07:11 AM

1. SSD. You are missing one. Must have item. 128GB SSD and any size 5400RPM HDD are made for each other. SSD and NAS combination is better, though.
2. PSU. You do not need 750W. You do not even need 650W for your hardware. I would recommend Seasonic X560. If you ever going to do SLI/CF, then X660 or Corsair 650W (built by Seasonic). Corsair 750W is not very good PSU for that amount of money anyway (built by CWT).
3. ATX. By the way, you may go by mATX motherboard and case, unless, of course, you plan on tripple SLI/CF in the future or have few cards to plug into expansion slots. I just did mATX with 3770 and 7970. Much more managable and convenient with TJ-08E. ATX is so Bush-era computing.

Dzzope September 4, 2012 07:42 AM

You could save some on the PSU.. 650 will be plenty for that build... even a 550 would do..

3.0charlie September 4, 2012 08:52 AM

I disagree about the PSU guys. The HX750 is a great PSU, and being modular @ 105$ it's a steal. Overkill at 750w indeed, but for the quality and price of less powerful PSUs, I would stick to the HX750.

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