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Old April 17, 2008, 08:52 PM
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Hi Folks,

I have a bunch of price-matched parts in my NCIX cart just waiting for the final button click. I've read some great reviews and lots of good advice in the forums on this site and I'd really like your feedback.

Intel E8500
ASUS P5E3 Deluxe
Corsair XMS2 Dominator 4GB PC2-8500 CL5-5-5-15 (not 100% sure of this choice)
ASUS EAH3870 Top (if I can find one in stock)
WD Raptor 150GB WD1500ADFD x 1
WD Caviar SE16 750GB WD7500AAKS x 2
Antec Truepower Quattro 1000W PSU
ASUS Xonar DX (I only use headphones, Sennheiser PC350 when I find them)
Samsung SH-203S DVD
Silverstone TJ07B

The rig will be used for gaming, nothing too intensive like Crysis, and various database and data modelling activities.

Based on the Vista thread I might consider running Business 64bit edition (I need the remote desktop component).

I intend to add water cooling as the second step in building this rig so the stock coolers will likely suffice for now.

Any suggestions on tweaks will be much appreciated.

Cheers,
Ian.
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Old April 17, 2008, 08:56 PM
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First off, you have a DDR3 motherboard, and DDR2 RAM.

Other than that, I like your choices.
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Old April 17, 2008, 09:00 PM
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I'd also suggest that you throw in an AC7 Pro at the very least for the build.

Normally you'd want more than that for a quad, but since you're sitting on the fence WRT water cooling there's probably no need to spend more than the sub $25 an AC7pro will cost you.
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Thanks for the quick responses guys

I holding fire on buying DDR3 until the prices drop. Based on the reviews from Tom's Hardware and others the price difference doesn't seem worth it at the moment.

I'll take a look at the cooler, especially if it's quieter than the stock one.

Thanks again.
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Old April 17, 2008, 09:11 PM
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I was pointing it out, because you wont be able to plug in the DDR2 RAM into that P5E3 motherboard! The slots are designed for DDR3, not DDR2. Either change your RAM, or change the Board to the P5E or the Maximus Formula.
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OCZ Z-Series GOLD 850W
2 x 128GB Corsair Force GT SATA3 SSD RAID0 :)
Acheiva Shimian Q270 Lite 2560x1440

Benq W500 Pojector.

Watercooling:
EK Supreme HF, EK FC GTX 680 Block, MCR320+Gelid Silent 12 Push/Pull, DD Pump, EK Multioption 100ml Res, EK Coolstream XT 220 RAD Gelid Wings Push/Pull.
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Old April 17, 2008, 09:20 PM
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Just went back to the ASUS site and reread the specifications. There's one section that implies support for both, at least it did when I first read it. You can tell I haven't built a system in a while

Time for more research Thanks Captn.
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Old April 17, 2008, 09:22 PM
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He's just got a dual-core listed, as far as I can see...

For a setup with a single 3870, a 1000W PSU is pretty heavy overkill. In fact, I'd consider it overkill if you had two of those cards. Dropping down to a 750W PSU would save you some coin, and you'd still have plenty of power for a second card in the future.

And yeah, an AC7 cooler would be a nice cooler to fill the gap between now and Water-cooling, without hurting the pocketbook much. The only thing worse than a stock cooler is a smaller stock cooler.
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No Prob. I think it is the P5K3C model that has both DDR2 and DDR3.... I dont think they have a X38 chipset board that does both. I would say get the P5E , and just get 8GB of DDR2. That should last you good and long.
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Coolermaster ATCS 840 w Window panel
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Asus Xonar Essence STX
OCZ Z-Series GOLD 850W
2 x 128GB Corsair Force GT SATA3 SSD RAID0 :)
Acheiva Shimian Q270 Lite 2560x1440

Benq W500 Pojector.

Watercooling:
EK Supreme HF, EK FC GTX 680 Block, MCR320+Gelid Silent 12 Push/Pull, DD Pump, EK Multioption 100ml Res, EK Coolstream XT 220 RAD Gelid Wings Push/Pull.
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Get the Rampage Formula instead and the rest of the build looks good.
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No Prob. I think it is the P5K3C model that has both DDR2 and DDR3.... I dont think they have a X38 chipset board that does both. I would say get the P5E , and just get 8GB of DDR2. That should last you good and long.
You didn't mention whether you'll be overclocking, and if so how "enthusiastically". Judging by your parts list, i would assume you will be. If you plan on overclocking that Wolfdale to high FSB's, then DDR3 could help. I would get some nice PC2 8500 Ballistix(like mine ), as most of them can run quite high speed while still maintaining good timings. On the other hand, if you're gonna be using the PC for rendering, Db and data modelling, then you won't want to overclock too high... stability should be very high priority. It's no big deal if you BSOD/crash during a game... but in the middle of a big project would blow. GL ...sorry for babbling.
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