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ignotusx June 10, 2012 09:26 AM

need help to build a gamer PC
 
hallo i am going to build a PC which i am going to use for gaming.
I have set up a list of components bout wonder if anyone could say if it is a good setup or not for gaming «I wont the possibility to crossfire at a later time»

Hard Drives: 120GB SSD
Motherboard: MSI Z77MA-G45 Intel Z77 4xDDR3 Socket 1155 mATX
CPU: Intel® Core i5 2500K, 3.3GHz, 6MB
Case: Corsair Carbide 500R Tower No PSU White ATX
Memory: Corsair 8GB (KIT) DDR3 1600MHz/CL9/VENGEANCE-BLUE/1,5V
GPU: PCI-Express-AMD XFX HD6870 1GB PCI-E
Power sup: XFX 750W Core Edition PSU P1-750S-NLB9, ATX12V, EPS12V Upp till 82% (80 PLUS Bronze)
+ my old: SAMSUNG SpinPoint T Series HD501LJ 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5


any hints or tips anyone could give my is appreciated.
It is also appreciated if people say that it is a good setup (if it is)
“i am not the best at this so need someones help”.

LarkStarr June 10, 2012 09:37 AM

Not a big fan of MSI personally, though honestly I've not been keeping up with the Z77's at all, but I'm going to assume Asus or Gigabyte would be a more solid choice for a motherboard, over MSI.

Solid PSU choice, though apparently expensive, you might be able to find a more value oriented PSU. I don't have any personal suggestions, maybe someone can step in and pop one out? Although if you're looking to crossfire later on.. I might recommend to bump up the Wattage to 850.
Speaking of which, why a 6870? Not enough room in the budget for a little more juice?

Otherwise a rather solid choice, IMO.

headsh0t June 10, 2012 11:34 AM

I agree with the MSI board in that I'd probably go with an Asus or Gigabyte. PSU is fine as long as you pricematch it for $99 or you could also save yourself $25 and go with this guy. Also at this point you'd probably want to get IB instead of SB so the equivalent of the 2500k would be the 3570k which you can usually find for about $20 more than the 2500k. Everything else seems to be ok, other than you didn't mention what SSD you'll be buying and like Larkstarr said, if you're gaming you may want a bit beefier GPU. What resolution are you running?

Also remember to price match everything you can. Use this: Shopbot - Compare prices - Canada - Price Comparison - Comparison Shopping I'm not sure what city you're in but if you have a local Memory Express they will pricematch any online canadian etailer and give you 25% of the difference (IIRC) as well.

ignotusx June 10, 2012 12:05 PM

well i heard that the 3570k was not better at least not for gaming then the 2500k
also you see I get the PCU XFX 750W Core Edition cheaper then the Antec High Current Gamer 750W buy about $20 so if it is better anyway

LarkStarr June 10, 2012 01:06 PM

$55 ? link?

monocycliste June 10, 2012 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ignotusx (Post 633542)
well i heard that the 3570k was not better at least not for gaming then the 2500k
also you see I get the PCU XFX 750W Core Edition cheaper then the Antec High Current Gamer 750W buy about $20 so if it is better anyway

The i5 3570k should be better than the 2500k as the new Ivy bridge is better. 234$ at BestDirect.ca, again you can pricematch that at ME or NCIX Buy Intel [BX80637I53570K] Intel Core i5 3570K Unlocked Quad Core Processor LGA1155 3.4GHZ Ivy Bridge 6MB Retail

The Antec HCG 750w 80+ bronze is 74.99$ at Newegg.ca [ Newegg.ca - Antec High Current Gamer Series HCG-750 750W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V v2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply ] you could pricematch/price beat at NCIX or MemoryExpress.

ignotusx June 10, 2012 02:08 PM

Well I am in Norway so the prising is not the same.
Bout the brands and the products are the same

and the video card the problem is that if i go up one level it goes from 6870=$220, 6950=$305 and the 6970=$390
and i do not know if that is worth it. What do you guys think?

Bond007 June 10, 2012 02:16 PM

What are Nvidia cards priced like (GTX 560Ti, GTX 570, GTX 670)?

ignotusx June 10, 2012 02:32 PM

GTX 560Ti=$255, GTX 570=$340 and GTX 670=$530

Dzzope June 10, 2012 06:04 PM

Very similar to UK prices... (read as rip off)


My suggestion is always to save somewhere in your build and buy the largest single card you can afford. possibly even go second hand.
I would definitely not suggest going x-fire as you will be hit and miss for which games support it and beyond that it can be a nightmare with drivers etc (hell recently AMD seem to be screwing up the drivers for single cards too)
Depending on the game. a 560 ti will trade blows with a 6870 and generally leave it behind when AA is on.

A 3570k is better clock for clock than a 2500k.. cooler and more power efficient.
The 2500k should OC a little better but until you hit the point where the 3570 can't handle the heat (and unless you want to push to the very max) it is still better.
If your set on the 2500k then drop down to either a z68 or even a P67 board.


SSD's are very expensive (though much more affordable than they used to be) for what is essentially faster boot and program load times.
I regretted buying mine instead of going for a 580 instead of a 560ti.
The speed is nice.. I just think the money is better spent on GPU if you like the shiny turned up in modern games.

As for the rest.. all looks good.. I'm personally NOT a fan of gigabyte. No experience of MSI for many years but have never had a single problem with any of the asus boards or cards I've used in my/friends builds.
If you really want the option of going dual card.. as said go for an 850 watt.. Personally I would sell a card and for a little more than a second of my old card get a new gpu with near to double performance.
If you rather go this route then a 650watt will be plenty. (and again give you more to spend on GPU.)


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