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Old April 27, 2012, 01:44 PM
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Hi to everyone! I am new to the site and was directed here from a Photography/Video web site.
I am a photographer and I shoot video also, I enjoy post processing on my 5 yr old PC. I am in need of a faster more reliable PC and would like to attempt to build it myself. I have been reading and researching for about 3 months now and would like to get some direction on what components would work well together to give me good results.
I work in Adobe LR4, PS CS5, and edit video in Adobe Premiere, I also use my PC for investing, Finances, and many other house hold documents plus web browsing (I do a lot on my PC). I do not do any gamming.

I want to build a system that will give me the most speed but stable, I need to be able to process video quick and efficient.

(QUIET is important to me also, is that possible with this kind of system?)

I would like a hot swap bay for backups on a 1TB drive and I also keep all of my video and photographs on a 1TB drive that I would remove when not in use.
My budget is 2000.00 I have already purchased a Corsair Obsidian Series 550D Quiet Mid-Tower Case and a Corsair HX Professional Series 850-Watt 80 Plus Certified PS. (I know over kill but got it at a great price).
This is what I have put together so far, please guide me and make suggestions for my needs.

ASUS Deluxe Intel Z77 ATX DDR3 2600 LGA 1155 Motherboard P8Z77-V DELUXE
Intel Core i7-2700K 3.5 GHz LGA 1155 Processor
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler (RR-212E-20PK-R2)
Corsair Vengeance Blue 16 GB DDR3 SDRAM Dual Channel Memory Kit
EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti DS Superclocked 1024 MB GDDR5 PCI Express, (this is one of Adobes recommended cards.)
3 Western Digital Caviar Black 1 TB SATA III 7200 RPM 64 MB Cache
Crucial 256 GB m4 2.5-Inch Solid State Drive SATA 6Gb/s (For OS, programs, and cache setup)
Lite-On LightScribe 24X SATA DVD+-RW Dual Layer Drive IHAS424-98


Thanks for your time….

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Old April 27, 2012, 02:59 PM
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Why not get a i7-37xx to go with the Z77 board? While I'm sure the Z77 will work with the older Core CPU but seem like a waste.
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Old April 27, 2012, 03:21 PM
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Not familiar with that model could you explain and do you know the cost?
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Old April 27, 2012, 04:05 PM
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Why not get a i7-37xx to go with the Z77 board? While I'm sure the Z77 will work with the older Core CPU but seem like a waste.
- Or pickup and cheaper Z68 board and forget about z77/IB all together, as they are basically even when OC'd.

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Not familiar with that model could you explain and do you know the cost?
On sunday/monday, the ivy bridge chips should be available. Expect the the 3570K (4core) and 3770K (4Core/8Thread) chips. I'm not sure what the prices will be, but probably just a little bit more $$ for the ivy bridge chips compared to SB.
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Old April 27, 2012, 04:33 PM
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The nice thing about the Z77 board is newer technology up to date stuff and has some nice features and will except the gen 3 chips.
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Old April 27, 2012, 04:52 PM
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The 3770k is a better chip for about the same price(for your use).. it's only just about to hit the shelves and will fit in the board you have picked (it's the new version of the 2700k)

Not sure the CM 212 will fit your needs for silence.. I have one and it's not quiet (though my case is high air flow rather than low sound)

May I ask what screen(s) your using? or how many your using?
I would guess minimum 2 and possibly 3?

The crucial m4 is a very good drive but by no means the fastest.. If it's in your budget I'd look at the intel 520 series..
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Old April 27, 2012, 07:26 PM
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I am using a single HP screen at this time and no plans for dual. I am looking to up grade to an HP Promo ZR2740w 27-inch LED Backlit IPS Monitor later this year.
That's good info on the Cooler Master Hyper 212 because I would like to keep things as quiet as possible.

Any comments on the video card?, I know very little in that area

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Old April 27, 2012, 09:31 PM
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Just to add my to 2 cents, regarding the CM 212 EVO, since I recently bought one to replace a noisy Corsair H60.

Based on my research and (now) experience, a CM 212 EVO is actually a very quiet heatsink (HS)/fan combo, especially since it has a PWM fan. The fan can spin all the way down to ~600 RPM, and after the intial set-up/installation I had to adjust the UEFI (BIOS) for lower CPU fan RPM, since the 600 was at the warning threshold. During "normal" use (no gaming) the CM 212 EVO spins at about ~750 RPM. It is currently sitting in a AMD AM3+ system (with a Phenom II 1090T) that is not overclocked (OC'ed). Of course if you OC your CPU, then don't expect it to be quiet.

Now, keep in mind that even though this HS/fan combo is relatively cheap and not the most elegant mouting set-up, it is still quiet.

Other quiet options, for twice the price, which I did initially considered was one of the Noctua products (since I had positive past experience, especially installation wise):
- NH-L12 Noctua NH-L12 LGA1155/1366/2011 AM3 FM1 Low Profile Heatsink Cooler W/ NF-F12 120MM NF-B9 92MM - Noctua - NH-L12
- NH-U12P SE2 Noctua NH-U12P SE2 LGA1155/1156/1366 AM2/AM3 I7/I5/PHENOM Heatpipe Cooler W/ 2XNH-P12 120MM Fans - Noctua - NH-U12P SE2
- NH-C14 Noctua NH-C14 LGA775/1155/1156/1366/AM3 I7/I5/PHENOM Heatpipe Cooler W/ 2x NF-P14 140MM Fans - Noctua - NH-C14

Also, whatever you do, don't get caught dead buying RAM with tall heatsinks, such as the standard Corsair Vengeance, though their low profile (LP) stuff is fine.

Video card wise, (IF you are looking for quiet) I would recommend either XFX HD 7770 DD(XFX HD 7770 Black Edition Super Overclock 1 GB Review - Page 25/30 | techPowerUp) or ASUS HD 7770 (ASUS Radeon HD 7770 DirectCU 1 GB Review - Page 25/30 | techPowerUp). Stay away from the Gigabyte version of HD 7770 - not quiet, relatively (Gigabyte HD 7770 OC 1 GB Review - Page 25/30 | techPowerUp).

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Old April 27, 2012, 10:35 PM
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Thanks EmptyMellon, good to hear from users of products that I am looking at. I was attracted to the CM 212 EVO because of its high ratings but you never really know for sure so this is good information.
I am really having a hard time on video card specs and types. The cards that you have recommended I like do to the efficiency but will they be good for my PS, Lr4, and Adobe Premiere video editing?
Thanks again for your help….
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Old April 28, 2012, 12:25 AM
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If you are looking for guaranteed video card support for Adobe software suites, then I would recommend nVidia video cards. Here are the tech spec's for Adobe Premiere Pro CS6: Movie editor, DVD editing software | Adobe Premiere Pro CS6 - Tech specs; now that is not to say that AMD/ATI cards won't work, but in the case of Adobe Premiere Pro CS6 specifically, the GPU accelaration is guaranteed for the listed cards.

Also, to keep in mind the fact that any new video cards such as an HD 7770 (or the comming GTX/GTS/GT 6xx cards from nVidia), will have a greater chance of issues simply due to the maturity of the available drivers (for a given card under a given OS) and the fact that professional video cards from nVidia (Quadro) and AMD (FirePro) will do better, but at a price. To consider a decent "mid-range" professional video card such as a Quadro 2000 or a FirePro V5900, be ready to spend ~430 dollars (both a single slot cards with no required auxiliar power). In the end, if one of them is within your budget, go with the pro card (especially if you don't game). Now, there might be a better forum such as the video editing (you came from) one where you can address a choice of given video cards' stability for specific Adobe software, as well as OS - one may run well under Vista but poorly under Win 7.

Additionally, I would recommand reading the actual video card reviews (specifically for the pro cards) since the pro users on Newegg especially, leave some useful feedback on the occasion. And unlike the desktop versions, the pro version have lot less posts to wade through, but many times lot more usefull: Newegg.ca - AMD 100-505648 FirePro V5900 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Workstation Video Card
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