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Old April 20, 2012, 05:00 PM
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Hello!

I'm looking to build a gaming PC for the first time. I've filled out the questionnaire - it's under the build.

While everything is up for debate and suggestion, I'm looking for specific info with regards to a CPU cooler, Motherboard(I've heard the ASRock Extreme 3 Gen 3 might be just as good), Case and Power Supply.

Budget: $1750 with tax(13%) and shipping included. Assuming Free shipping and $99.99 devoted to Windows 7, that leaves $1450.

Motherboard: Asus P8Z68-V/Gen 3 Intel Z68 Motherboard/Gen 3 LGA 155 ($189.99 at tigerdirect.ca)
Buy the ASUS P8Z68-V/GEN3 Intel Z68 Motherboard at TigerDirect.ca

CPU: Intel Core i5 2500k ($209.99 at amazon.ca) (Should I wait and get Ivy Bridge i5 3570K?)
Buy the Intel Core i5-2500K 3.30GHz Quad-Core Unlocked CPU at TigerDirect.ca

CPU Cooler: Unsure - depends on the fan and power supply? (range of $50-100)

RAM: Corsair Vengeance Desktop Memory Kit 16gb ($104.98 at amazon.ca)
Corsair CMZ16GX3M4A1600C9 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM Memory Vengeance 16 Quad Channel Kit DDR3 1600 MHz: Amazon.ca: Electronics

Videocard: EVGA GTX 580 Superclocked 1536 MB GDDR5 ($389-429 at tigerdirect.ca)
Buy the EVGA GTX 580 SuperClocked Batman Arkham Ed. w/Game at TigerDirect.ca

Soundcard: built-in.

Hard drive: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200rpm, 64mb cache ($100 at amazon.ca and tigerdirect.ca)
Buy the Seagate Barracuda 1TB Hard Drive at TigerDirect.ca

Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24 ($20.99 at Newegg.ca + $7.99 shipping)

Case: Azza Hurrican Full Tower / Cooler Master HAF 32 / Cooler Master HAF 912
Buy the Azza Hurrican 2000R Full Tower Gaming Case at TigerDirect.ca (hurrican)
Buy the Cooler Master HAF 932 Advance ATX Full Tower Case at TigerDirect.ca (HAF932
Buy the Cooler Master HAF 912 Mid-Tower Computer Case at TigerDirect.ca (HAF912

Power Supply: OCZ ZX Series Modular 850W ($140)
Buy the OCZ 850W ZX Series Modular 80Plus Gold PSU at TigerDirect.ca

Keyboard: Microsoft ANB-00001 Wired Keyboard 600 ($13.99 at amazon.ca, 17.99 at tigerdirect.ca)

Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit ($99.99 at tigerdirect.ca)

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PC Use: I'm going to use this PC for gaming. If specific games are of relevance, think Tribes: Ascend, Civ V, League fo Legends, Starcraft 2, Mass Effect, Diablo III, quite likely an MMO like Guild Wars II or SWTOR at some point...etc. In terms of genre: RTSes, RPGs, MMORPGS, Strategy, DOTA-style and the *occasional* First Person Shooter. I'm looking to get good/great performance out of these and hopefully future proofing myself for a couple of years provided I make some occasional upgrades.

Budget: My budget is $1750 tax and shipping included. Provided free-shipping for most stuff, that puts me at $1550 max (13% taxation because I don't live in Alberta ). $99.99 is already given over to Windows 7 64bit so....$1450.

Country: I'll be buying my parts from Canada. Specifically TigerDirect.ca - Computers, Computer Parts, Computer Components, Netbooks & Electronics, Amazon.ca: Online shopping for Canadians - books, electronics, music, DVDs, software, video games & more and possibly Newegg Canada - Computer Products, Laptops, Electronics, HDTVs, Digital Cameras, Cellphones and More!. Of course, if there are other reputable websites with great prices, please tell me.

Brand Preference: I've never built a PC before so no brand preference. I'm looking for functionality, decent warranty and good customer service.

Current Parts: I'll be using an older Razer Gaming mouse for now and a 32" tv-monitor. 1080p Resolution.

IF YOU have searched and/or read similar threads: The conclusions I've drawn are that the i5 2500K is just as good as as the i7 2600K for gaming, SSDs are a nice luxury but not necessary, and it's hard to figure out motherboards and cooling.

Overclocking: I have no experience with over-clocking. If it's really easy I may consider it, but I'm not explicitly looking to do it. If I can get parts that enable me to do it at a later date within my price range, then great. If not, no biggie.

Build-time: I plan to build it in Mid-may(graduation + minor cash gift influx).

Resolution and settings: I'm looking at 1080p. Ideally, I'd expect most games to run on max at first but I'm aware that would drop as the years go by.

Specific technologies: Lower noise. Wifi would be great too, but that's not necessary. I'm open as to what you guys would think are essential technologies a gaming PC should not do without.
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Old April 20, 2012, 07:09 PM
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Board is fine; overkill, but it will work.
If you never intend to OC, then the 2500 will do. Otherwise, the 2500k is plenty indeed.
HSF: Noctua NH-U12P
Ram: Corsair CMZ16GX3M4A1600C9 Vengeance 16GB 4X4GB DDR3-1600 CL9-9-9-24 Dual Channel Memory Kit - Corsair - CMZ16GX3M4A1600C9 cheaper
GPU: 580 is fine, EVGA is great, but a nice word for Galaxy, with a canadian RMA center.
HDD: look at Samsung and WD too.
Case: personal choice. Enjoy the look of the ones you selected.
PSU: 850w is overkill, unless you intend to go SLI. Otherwise, look into a Seasonic 650w Gold, or an Antec AX750w.

In regards to oc'ing, read, read, read. It's not difficult anymore, and there is a ton of guides out there. Just don't go crazy on Vcore and you'll be fine. Anyway, the 2500 is a very potent CPU even when running stock.
For other online resellers, look at
NCIX.com - Canada's Premier Computer Store - Online PC Discount Store, Buy Computer Accessories,
Memory Express, Inc. - Computer Parts & Laptop Computers in Canada,
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Use Computers - Price Comparison - Canada's Cheapest Prices to compare prices of the same item.

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Old April 21, 2012, 04:50 AM
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Thank you for the welcome! :)

I'll definitely take a closer look into oc'ing and I'll check out the additional sites you've recommended as well. Much appreciated.

For the motherboard, would it be possible to know how exactly it's an over-kill? Knowing how to spot that would probably help me for this PC or the next.
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Old April 21, 2012, 07:17 AM
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Because there are cheaper Z68 boards that would also fit the bill.I'm not sure if the Gigabyte has the UEFI bios though.

Gigabyte GA-Z68AP-D3 ATX LGA1155 Z68 DDR3 2PCI-E16 3PCI-E1 2PCI CrossFireX SATA3 HDMI Motherboard - Gigabyte - GA-Z68AP-D3
ASUS P8Z68-V LX Z68 LGA1155 ATX 2PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 DDR3 SATA3 USB3.0 Audio Video CrossFire Motherboard - ASUS - P8Z68-V LX
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Old April 21, 2012, 11:03 AM
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if you buy today that CPU/MB combo is $369.99 at memoryexpress for some 72 hour sale. Intel Core i5-2500K Processor Bundle w/ Asus P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Motherboard at Memory Express

Edit: That's the V-Pro, but still...cheaper and better.
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Old April 21, 2012, 12:13 PM
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i would personally change the power supply to a corsair ax750. it has a 7 year warranty and is plenty powerful enough to supply the demand of your computer. also, check out ncix.com/memoryexpress as they are canadian retailers that provide a good selection at decent prices. always look for an opportunity to price match. i use shopbot.ca to look up parts before ordering. otherwise, the setup looks good!
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Old April 21, 2012, 12:29 PM
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You should read my first reply, Sex... ;-)
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you could also try Canada Computers. Canada Computers | Computers, Computer Parts, Laptops, Hard Drives, PC Hardware & Accessories Sales

i have not bought anything online form them so i cant say what shipping is like.

right now the CM HAF 932 is going for 114.99 with MIR Canada Computers | Cases | Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced Full Tower ATX Case (RC-932-KKN5-GP)

and the HDD is going for 89.99 Canada Computers | Hard Drives | Seagate Barracuda (ST1000DM003) SATA3 6.0Gb/s 1TB 64MB Cache (OEM)
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Old April 21, 2012, 02:01 PM
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oh wow, didn't even bother reading the replies lol. charlie, you've pretty much stated everything i had to say haha :o
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Old April 21, 2012, 06:24 PM
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Hi Merrix,

You might want an aftermarket Heat Sink, The Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO is sitting pretty at $38 Buy the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO Universal CPU Cooler at TigerDirect.ca and is almost on par with the $80 Noctua, and similar performance to the H70 Water cooler.

I purchased the HAF 912 and it IS a great case but I had to order the 2 200mm fans separately so that adds $40 to the case price, might have well bought the HAF 932. Overclocking is as easy as clicking your mouse now, you just use the software your Motherboard Manufacturer gives you.

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