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Old March 15, 2012, 02:49 AM
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1. What YOUR PC will be used for? GAMING
2. What YOUR budget is? $500
3. What country YOU will be buying YOUR parts from? CANADA
4. IF YOU have a brand preference? INTEL
5. If YOU intend on using any of YOUR current parts? 21' LCD, mouse/keyboard, speakers, Win 7 64-bit
6. IF YOU have searched and/or read similar threads? Done some research.
7. IF YOU plan on overclocking or run the system at default speeds? NO plans to overclock at all.
8. WHEN do you plan to build it? Within the next month
9. What resolution do you use? 1680 x 1050

Hey all just looking for some input on whether this is a good for a sub-$500 (Taxes in) PC build. I am building this for a friend of mine who pretty much wants to just be able to run current games and some future ones, but isn't really looking to run it in the highest resolution or push it to the max.

Few notes about some of the options i choose.....

CPU - Going budget, but enough to play current and future games. I could of gone for the Intel Pentium G860 - $94.99, or the equivalent AMD Athlon II X3 445 - $69.99 but I prefer Intel and so does the friend. The G860 though would give me 400MHz more over the G620... maybe worth it for $25 more? or upgrading to the Intel Core i3-2120 - $129.99, which would be a large boost thanks to Hyper-threading.
MOBO- its cheap.. supports DVI, based on Intel H61 chipset which means you can't overlock it. But I have no intention to. Comes with all the integrated bells and whistles for a cheap build.
RAM: Could go with Kingston HyperX Blue 4GB which is only $7 extra and maybe more reliable than the el-cheapo ram I choose?
Vid Card - Could shell out only $10 more for the Radeon HD 6770, get a slight boost in the GPU dept.
PSU - Here's where I may need help. Power supply is the most important part of a new rig. This particular one has a lot of good reviews. The Radeon HD 6750 doesn't need much power which is why I choose this one as it provides 25A on a 12V line.. and for a cheap price at that.

Anyways Here's the build:

CPU: Intel Pentium G620 - $69.99
MOBO: BIOSTAR H61MGC - $59.99
PSU: DiabloTek PSDA400 - $31.99
VID CARD: Sapphire Radeon HD 6750 - $99.99
CASE: NZXT GAMMA - $47.99
RAM: Crucial Ballistix Desktop Memory 4GB - $17.97
HD: Seagate Barracuda 7200 RPM 250GB - $69.97
DVD: Samsung DVD/RW - $17.99

Total (After taxes): $ 469.94
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SUB $700 build

CPU: Intel Core i3-2120 - $129.99
MOBO: BIOSTAR H61MGC - $59.99
PSU: Coolmax ZX-500 - $47.99
VID CARD: PowerColor HD 6850 - $139.88
CASE: Cooler Master HAF 912 - $59.97
RAM: Kingston HyperX 8GB $39.97
HD: Western Digital Caviar Blue 250GB - $74.97
DVD: Samsung DVD/RW - $17.99

Total (After taxes): $ 644.95

The purpose of the second build really was to give my friend a second option... spend the extra $180 and get a bigger boost in processing power on an i3 with Hyper-Threading than a dual core without, better PSU (34A at 12V line) thats also 80 PLUS certified, 4GB more ram and better quality at that, better case with 2 fans as opposed to just 1. The HD 6850 which will give him the option of having HDMI, and better GPU power so that if he decides to join the rest of the 1080i/1080P world and upgrade to say... a 24' monitor that can do 1920 x 1080.. He can do so, and maybe have a rig that might last him a little while longer at the expense of only $180.

Anyways suggestions/comments would be greatly appreciated. I have done builds in the past but been out of the scene for quite some time (8 years) and will gladly take any suggestions :)

Again, was trying to stay under $500 for the first budget build and under $700 for second one as a decent low-mid end option.

Thanks!!
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Old March 15, 2012, 07:09 AM
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Have you ever thought of integrated graphics?
I know I've been flogging a dead horse here, and nobody seems to listen, but for budget gaming performance, I really do think Llano offers the best value. Read the review here.

AMD A8 3870K -- $139
ASUS F1A75-M -- $89
Crucial Ballistix 4GB -- $17.97
WD Caviar Blue 500GB HDD -- $84.97
Samsung DVD-RW -- $17.99
NZXT Gamma -- $47.99
Corsair CX430 -- $29.99

Subtotal: $426.91

I`ve spec`d a larger Hard drive (500GB), a better motherboard from a reputable manufacturer, and a better powersupply.

If your friend is running games at 1680x1050 at medium settings the 3870K APU will be more than enough horsepower to allow your friend to get very good framerates.
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Old March 15, 2012, 07:37 AM
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no deadhorse here.... F1A75M over here. dedi torrent box win!
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Old March 15, 2012, 10:01 AM
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Have you ever thought of integrated graphics?
I know I've been flogging a dead horse here, and nobody seems to listen, but for budget gaming performance, I really do think Llano offers the best value. Read the review here.

AMD A8 3870K -- $139
ASUS F1A75-M -- $89
Crucial Ballistix 4GB -- $17.97
WD Caviar Blue 500GB HDD -- $84.97
Samsung DVD-RW -- $17.99
NZXT Gamma -- $47.99
Corsair CX430 -- $29.99

Subtotal: $426.91

I`ve spec`d a larger Hard drive (500GB), a better motherboard from a reputable manufacturer, and a better powersupply.

If your friend is running games at 1680x1050 at medium settings the 3870K APU will be more than enough horsepower to allow your friend to get very good framerates.
Hey! Thanks for the advice. I never thought of the AMD A8-3870K! Probably cause he wanted an Intel core, though I know for budget builds AMD is usually the way to go! This is great!

I will definately look into this! thank you!
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Old March 15, 2012, 10:39 AM
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If your buddy doesn't plan on maxing out his games,then why bother? If you want a gaming rig,then build a gaming rig. Other than that,what you have listed,should be a good enough computer for general use. If you can add another $600 or so to the budget,you are on the right track to building a pretty good gaming system for your friend.
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Both look good except for the power supplies. I would not buy either of those power supplies for my own computer. Get a budget seasonic, antec, or corsair and it will be good to go. I would get one of those brands 400w+ for the first computer or 500w+ for the second computer.

The AMD A8-3870k should definitely be considered as an option for a budget gaming rig IF he doesn't care about high resolution gaming. If is more than capable of playing most games at mid level settings, but if you plan to add a mid to high end video card down the road the processor is lacking in comparison to an i3.
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Old March 15, 2012, 11:04 AM
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If your buddy doesn't plan on maxing out his games,then why bother? If you want a gaming rig,then build a gaming rig. Other than that,what you have listed,should be a good enough computer for general use. If you can add another $600 or so to the budget,you are on the right track to building a pretty good gaming system for your friend.
I agree, but thats what "budget" builds are for... for those that don't want the best they can get cause they are strapped for cash. He plays mostly Xbox 360... so the few games that are coming out like Diablo III or some other FPS down the road, he just needs a PC for that and to surf... no sense spending over $1,000 to accomplish that... especially since he's mostly a console gamer... but his current rig is a Pentium 4.... he NEEDS an upgrade but obviously using a Pentium 4 for 10 years now he doesn't require a beast lol..

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Both look good except for the power supplies. I would not buy either of those power supplies for my own computer. Get a budget seasonic, antec, or corsair and it will be good to go. I would get one of those brands 400w+ for the first computer or 500w+ for the second computer.

The AMD A8-3870k should definitely be considered as an option for a budget gaming rig IF he doesn't care about high resolution gaming. If is more than capable of playing most games at mid level settings, but if you plan to add a mid to high end video card down the road the processor is lacking in comparison to an i3.
Ya that was my main concern, power supply. I think he's rather opt for the i3 to be honest when talking to him and maybe shell out a little extra $$$ Thanks for the suggestions!! I use a Corsair PSU in my 7 year old rig and have zero complaints!
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On your first build...drop the 6750 and sub in a 7750 for $120....the 67XX were overpriced holdovers that were just rebadged 57XXs and $100 is way too much for a 6750, 6770s should be under that.

Not sure where you live but I always compare the tigerdirect, newegg and memory express prices...some of those are good and some are high.

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The AMD A8-3870k should definitely be considered as an option for a budget gaming rig IF he doesn't care about high resolution gaming. If is more than capable of playing most games at mid level settings, but if you plan to add a mid to high end video card down the road the processor is lacking in comparison to an i3.
Yes. I suggest the A8-3870K as long as your friend doesn't want to spend more money on a video card in a year or two. The downside with that specific IGP is that it's not a very 'upgrade' friendly path.

Should work fine if he's okay with a low end gaming machine for a few years.
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