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Old December 8, 2011, 07:20 AM
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1. What YOUR PC will be used for. That means what types of tasks you'll be performing.
Gaming

2. What YOUR budget is. A price range is acceptable as long as it's not more than a 20% spread
800 CAD

3. What country YOU will be buying YOUR parts from.
Canada

4. IF YOU have a brand preference. That means, are you an Intel-Fanboy, AMD-Fanboy, ATI-Fanboy, nVidia-Fanboy, Seagate-Fanboy, WD-Fanboy, etc, etc, etc, you get the picture.
Not a fan of AMD GPU's, have only had problems with each one I've owned. Also, will most likely buy EVGA cards when shopping NVIDIA.

5. If YOU intend on using any of YOUR current parts, and if so, what those parts are.
Will be listed at the end since this post is only for GPUs anyways.

6. IF YOU have searched and/or read similar threads.

7. IF YOU plan on overclocking or run the system at default speeds.
Overclocking

8. WHEN do you plan to build it?
I'd like to order the GPU today or tomorrow.

9. What resolution do you use?
1920x1080


So here's what I've currently got on the way:
CPU: Intel i7 2700k
Motherboard: ASUS Maximus IV Extreme-Z
RAM: 2x 4gb G.skill Sniper 1866 mhz CL9
HDD: 640 gb WD Caviar black
PSU: Corsair TX950 950w
Case: Coolermaster HAF X
CPU cooler: Noctua NH-D14

What I ideally would want to do is run BF3 on max settings at 1920x1080. I can't really decide what setup to go with. Things I thought of were:
1 GTX 570 2580 mb, 120 gb SSD
2 GTX 560 448 Classifieds
1 GTX 580 (Classified 3gb version or normal GTX 580 1.5 gb for 120$ less?)

Thanks for any input!

Last edited by Cherpin; December 26, 2011 at 10:56 AM. Reason: Changed setup choices
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Old December 8, 2011, 08:53 AM
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A little bit off topic but from what I've seen so far is that the Core i7 2700K has about the same overclocking potential as a Core i7 2600K even though it is claimed that Core i7 2700K's are cherry picked.

Here is my hierarchy 1 GTX580 > 1 GTX590 > 2 GTX570 > 2 GTX560(448).

I choose the single GTX580 because with dual GTX580's it will outperform a single GTX590. I'm against a dual GTX590 because the money could be put to better use for a SSD if you have plans to get 2 GTX580's instead. I wouldn't go with triple GTX570's because a single powerful card is always better than an array of less powerful cards and although the board supports more than 2 cards, it is bypassing to a NF200 chip which is just sharing the same amount of bandwidth to the CPU, x16 for P67 and Z68 motherboards.

If you're not running a multi display setup, just get the vanilla GTX580 1.5GB. Also, such abundance of GPU processing power is not necessary unless you're running a multi display setup.
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Old December 8, 2011, 09:13 AM
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A little bit off topic but from what I've seen so far is that the Core i7 2700K has about the same overclocking potential as a Core i7 2600K even though it is claimed that Core i7 2700K's are cherry picked.

Here is my hierarchy 1 GTX580 > 1 GTX590 > 2 GTX570 > 2 GTX560(448).

I choose the single GTX580 because with dual GTX580's it will outperform a single GTX590. I'm against a dual GTX590 because the money could be put to better use for a SSD if you have plans to get 2 GTX580's instead. I wouldn't go with triple GTX570's because a single powerful card is always better than an array of less powerful cards and although the board supports more than 2 cards, it is bypassing to a NF200 chip which is just sharing the same amount of bandwidth to the CPU, x16 for P67 and Z68 motherboards.

If you're not running a multi display setup, just get the vanilla GTX580 1.5GB. Also, such abundance of GPU processing power is not necessary unless you're running a multi display setup.
I got my hands on the 2700k through the Intel RE Holiday deal (paid 100$~ for it), thats the only reason I went for that over the 2600k.

Definetly a good idea of getting an SSD though if I go with a cheaper GPU setup, completely forgot about that.

I originally really liked the idea of the single 580 but I really want to SLI this setup at some point, and after looking at an article concerning microstuttering from another site, it seems 3 cards is optimal to make microstuttering less of a problem. That is really the only reason I even consider getting the 560s/570s. But even then, I've never seen microstutter so maybe it wouldn't bug me that much? Anyone have any experiences with microstuttering?

Also, 3 580s on this board would probably get bottlenecked by the amount of PCIE lanes wouldn't it?

Going to edit original post to reflect microstuttering and SSD.
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Old December 8, 2011, 09:42 AM
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I wouldn't recommend going anything more than a GTX580 dual SLI. A triple SLI for any of these setup is a waste as the next generation Nvidia Kepler cards will be out by late 2012 at the very least. You could spend a fortune on previous generation cards now but it would be a whole lot better to spend on next generation cards that would most obviously should perform better than its predecessor.

I'm not a huge fan of multi GPU setups as I would not have to worry about scaling, driver support, micro stuttering and bandwidth bottleneck. For a single monitor setup, a GTX580 dual SLI is overkill and shouldn't be any problem whatsoever when it comes to gaming.
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Old December 8, 2011, 11:13 AM
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My choice would be 2 good 570s...They are the best bang for the buck..although retailers have bumped up prices for Christmas (used to be $300, now $350 at bottom). I don't see any reason to go Tri-SLI with that, but it leaves you the option for cheap later.

Edit: That board would be fine in Tri-SLI with any of them PCI-Express Lanes wise...Issue would be cooling since in tri-SLI one is right up against another.
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Old December 8, 2011, 11:22 AM
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You wont benefit from the extra vram, 1.5gb is enough for your resolution.At 1920x1080 I find one 570 oc'd is enough for me, so if you really need the firepower then get two 570's and overclock them, better price/performance than 580s
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Old December 9, 2011, 07:38 AM
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My choice would be 2 good 570s...They are the best bang for the buck..although retailers have bumped up prices for Christmas (used to be $300, now $350 at bottom). I don't see any reason to go Tri-SLI with that, but it leaves you the option for cheap later.

Edit: That board would be fine in Tri-SLI with any of them PCI-Express Lanes wise...Issue would be cooling since in tri-SLI one is right up against another.

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You wont benefit from the extra vram, 1.5gb is enough for your resolution.At 1920x1080 I find one 570 oc'd is enough for me, so if you really need the firepower then get two 570's and overclock them, better price/performance than 580s
Is there any reason to go with the GTX 570 over the GTX 560 448 Classified? 35~$ cheaper and same performance/better performance in some cases. I guess the downside would be harder to find one later on if I want to tri-sli depending on how long the run for them is.
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Yah, that's pretty much it. I expect the stock of 560 448s to be gone by Christmas at which time the 570 will drop back down to its old price point.
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Here is my hierarchy 1 GTX580 > 1 GTX590 > 2 GTX570 > 2 GTX560(448).

I choose the single GTX580 because with dual GTX580's it will outperform a single GTX590. I'm against a dual GTX590 because the money could be put to better use for a SSD if you have plans to get 2 GTX580's instead. I wouldn't go with triple GTX570's because a single powerful card is always better than an array of less powerful cards and although the board supports more than 2 cards, it is bypassing to a NF200 chip which is just sharing the same amount of bandwidth to the CPU, x16 for P67 and Z68 motherboards.

If you're not running a multi display setup, just get the vanilla GTX580 1.5GB. Also, such abundance of GPU processing power is not necessary unless you're running a multi display setup.
Agreed. OP I don't think you have enough juice for 2 GTX 590s or 3 GTX 570s anway. If I were you I'd get the GTX 560 448s. (If you do get them do you mind posting some benchmarks, lol I'd really like to see how they perform)
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Old December 11, 2011, 09:21 PM
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I would go with 2 GTX560ti's. Best bang for the buck for performance in my opinion. SLI gtx590 would require 1000W+ psu and you'll be spending more money.
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