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Old October 16, 2011, 09:41 PM
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1. What YOUR PC will be used for. School (Words), Gaming, downloading, storing, streaming, burning etc..

2. What YOUR budget is. 1500$ CAD

3. What country YOU will be buying YOUR parts from. Canada

4. IF YOU have a brand preference. Intel, Asus, Nvidia etc... (But my preferences can and do change if price/performance is better elsewhere.

5. If YOU intend on using any of YOUR current parts, and if so, what those parts are. I have an Ultra X3 1000Watts PSU, 2 Raptors 150GBs (not sure i will be using them tho), Dell Ultrasharp 24" monitor, Logitech mouse G9 and keyboard G11, klipsh 2.1 w/ sub speakers, watercooling stuff (Rads, pumps, res) and i think that's about it.

6. IF YOU have searched and/or read similar threads. I did but a few months back. I will do more in the next couple of days tho.

7. IF YOU plan on overclocking or run the system at default speeds. Ocing, of course. 4.8Ghz++ is my goal.

8. WHEN do you plan to build it? As soon as I'm done doing my researchs, I'm ordering.

9. What resolution do you use? 1920x1200

Hey guys! I'm looking to build a new rig almost from scratch. I'm looking for a cpu, mobo, 8gb ram kit, gpu, sound card, bluray burner and blank medias, 1-2tb good Hdd, maybe an SSD for my OS, a surround headset, a mid tower case, a cpu block that will fit my cpu socket and i think thats about it. I'm planing to Oc as much as watercoling will let me go but only the CPU. I might need some help here too. Ocing guides for the new tech since I'm kinda outdated.

Last time i checked, a few months back actually, an Intel I7 2500-2600k and an Nvidia 560GTX sounded like a good start. No clue on the right mobo for me and the Ocing I'm planning tho. I'd like it to be able to do SLI in the future tho. I decided on the CM 690II Advanced case for it's price and quality. My friend has one and i kinda felt in love with it. As for the rest, I'm also clueless as whats good these days and why.

The main games i will be playing are crysis 2, upcoming max payne 3, MW3, BF3 and a lot more. I want to be able to pkay them decently on my 24" monitor.

So that's it. Any comment, recommendations, thoughts all welcomed! Even games recommendations Heh I've been out for too long. I miss it!

Thanks all!
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Old October 17, 2011, 12:43 AM
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With price matching from everywhere and buying from tiger direct to avoid accumulative shipping costs, this $1844 build should cost less than $1500.

i5 2500K $226
Newegg.ca - Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K
ASUS P8Z68-V PRO $218 More stable than other brands when overclocking.
Newegg.ca - ASUS P8Z68-V PRO LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
Kingston HyperX 8GB $94
Newegg.ca - Kingston HyperX 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 HyperX Plug n Play Desktop Memory Model KHX1600C9D3P1K2/8G
Noctua NH-D14 $100
Newegg.ca - Noctua NH-D14 120mm & 140mm SSO CPU Cooler
SAPPHIRE 100311-2SR HD 6970 $373 or cheaper Toxic
Newegg.ca - SAPPHIRE 100311-2SR Radeon HD 6970 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity
OCZ Vertex 3 Series MAX IOPS Edition 120GB $257 or cheaper Agility3
Newegg.ca - OCZ Vertex 3 Series MAX IOPS Edition VTX3MI-25SAT3-120G 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB $88
Newegg.ca - Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
SILVERSTONE RV03B-WA $207
Newegg.ca - SILVERSTONE RAVEN Series RV03B-WA Matte Black with Gray Trimming, Steel / Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case
SeaSonic X Series X650 Gold $149 or X850 for $220 if you want to add a second card.
Newegg.ca - SeaSonic X Series X650 Gold ((SS-650KM Active PFC F3)) 650W ATX12V V2.3/EPS 12V V2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
ASUS 24X DVD $31
Newegg.ca - ASUS 24X DVD Burner - Bulk 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS - CD / DVD Burners
ASUS Xonar DX 7.1 $101
Newegg.ca - ASUS Xonar DX 7.1 Channels PCI Express x1 Interface Sound Card
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Old October 17, 2011, 05:12 AM
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Good build Luay put together minus the cpu cooler imo. I would go with an H80 over the Noctua for its ease of installation, better looks, more low profile design, as well as much less weight. Corsair HS1 headphones are like pillows on the ears and definitely worth $50 when on sale.
NCIX.com - Buy Corsair Cooling Hydro Series H80 High Performance CPU Cooler System LGA775 1366 1156 1155 AM2 AM3 - Corsair - CWCH80 - in Canada

NCIX.com - Buy Corsair Gaming Audio Series CA-HS1 USB Headset 50MM Drivers Circumaural Earcups Dolby Digital - Corsair - CA-HS1NA - in Canada
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Old October 17, 2011, 08:05 AM
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Just keep in mind that, for gaming, the #1 thing you can do to play bigger/faster is use more video card. I would (and did) bypass SSD and put the extra into a GTX580, it being the fastest single chip current card. I'm not (yet) a big believer in SSD as a 'must have', to me it's a high end luxury given the tech is still maturing and the expense per GB. Yes, it's great to boot up faster and load programs/game levels faster, but once you're there (forgive my luddite ways if I'm wrong, but I don't think so) there aren't really any usable gains. Do I want one? Yes, assuredly. But not yet.
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Old October 17, 2011, 12:01 PM
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Just keep in mind that, for gaming, the #1 thing you can do to play bigger/faster is use more video card. I would (and did) bypass SSD and put the extra into a GTX580, it being the fastest single chip current card. I'm not (yet) a big believer in SSD as a 'must have', to me it's a high end luxury given the tech is still maturing and the expense per GB. Yes, it's great to boot up faster and load programs/game levels faster, but once you're there (forgive my luddite ways if I'm wrong, but I don't think so) there aren't really any usable gains. Do I want one? Yes, assuredly. But not yet.
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Old October 17, 2011, 08:36 PM
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Thanks guys! So i should drop the idea of SSD and put the money towards a 580GTX. Got it!

Thanks for the recommendations Luay79!

That board seems like a great deal. Plus i always liked Asus boards over others. I will check it out a bit more when i have time.

A few questions comes to my mind tho.

Whats the difference between the 2500k and the 2600k?

I'm thinking of watercooling the CPU btw so no need for a CPU cooler. Tho, if anyone has recommendations on CPU blocks, i would appreciate!

Another question would be, which 8GB kit of ram would suit my needs? And why? I might be overclocking it as well.

As for the case, i already made my choice on the CM 690II advanced.

I don't need a PSU either ;)

Oh and I'm looking for a Bluray burner, the one you linked above is a regular DVD burner right?

Thanks again guys!
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- Asus Geforce 580GTX DirectCUII Fermi
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- Asus Xonar DX 7.1 \ Klipsch Promedia 2.1 THX
- Corsair Vengeance 1300 Gaming Headset
- Crucial M4 SSD 128GB \ WD Caviar Black 1TB
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Old October 17, 2011, 08:48 PM
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Oh and i forgot, that Corsair headset is not surround right? I'd prefer a surround one that would pkug onto my sound card (no usb headset kind). But now I'm wondering if i should be looking into a standard 2.1 headset. I've had good and bad experiences with surround headset in the past.

What do ypu guys think?
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- Asus Xonar DX 7.1 \ Klipsch Promedia 2.1 THX
- Corsair Vengeance 1300 Gaming Headset
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Old October 18, 2011, 01:45 AM
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I find it hard to justify paying $500 for a GTX580 when a HD6970 with a high-end cutom cooler costs $330 w/rebate. If you know your benchmarks, you would too. Mind you I would never have paid more than $260 for a HD6950 2GB until this card came out.

I have only recently found about it from it's sibling, the 6950 2GB Toxic. They share the same custom cooler.

BrutalGreen from another thread:

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2500k is nearly physically identical...only difference being that each of the 4 core on the i7 can handle 2 threads instead of one. Now this is useless in nearly every game as most don't use more than 2 to 4 threads anyways. However enabling HT does generate extra heat and can make overclocking a little more hazardous/tricky (also keep in mind u save about 100$ for no loss in gaming).
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From your signature, I'm guessing that your last build was in 2005? Well power consumption has gone down with the times and with it the heat. Air-cooling can and does match or comes very close to watercooling in heat & noise if your target overclock is 4.8ghz/1.3v. Self contained waterblocks such as the H80 does give your system a cleaner look and adds space for more airflow, but the fans are too loud for my taste, and it does not perform better than the NH-D14 or Thermalright SilverArrow.

PS: You can afford an SSD. OCZ Vertex3 120GB, Crucial M4 128GB or OCZ Aglity3 120GB. It's a game changer.

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You're right that you should avoid USB headsets since you have a dedicated soundcard. Corsair has an analogue version of the same headset. I think the Asus Vulcan is more impressive.
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Old October 18, 2011, 02:43 AM
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I find it hard to justify paying $500 for a GTX580 when a HD6970 with a high-end cutom cooler costs $330 w/rebate. If you know your benchmarks, you would too. Mind you I would never have paid more than $260 for a HD6950 2GB until this card came out.
If you're going single card, than yes. But as you've mentioned the option of adding an another one down the road, get yourself an nvidia card. Or be prepared for tons of crossfire headaches. The benches would look nice for sure, but the gaming experience oh dear...
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