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Old September 8, 2011, 08:17 AM
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Hi,

I am going to purchase all the parts for my new desktop tonight and would like some last minute advice.

Intel Sandybridge i5-2500K Unlocked Core i5 Quad-Core Processor (3.30GHz, 6MB Cache, Socket 1155) Corsair CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9 8GB 1600MHz CL9 DDR3 Vengeance Memory Two Module KitAsus GTX 570 DirectCu II60Gb OCZ Agility 3 SSD Read 525MB s Write 475MB sSamsung F3 HD103SJ 1TB internal Hard Drive SATAII 32MB Cache 7200RPM OEMGigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3P Z68 MotherboardCoolermaster HAF 922 Mid Tower Chassis
900W PSU, Antec High Current Gamer HGC-900, 88% Eff', 80 PLUS Bronze, SLI/CrossFire, EPS 12V, Quiet Fan, ATX v2.3
Samsung Blu-ray Combo Drive
Genuine Windows 7 Home Edition x64


I will be getting a 24" monitor.

I am planning on going SLI with the GTX 570 because a GTX 580 doesn't seem worth the additional 160.00 for a small performance increase. This is why I have chosen to have a 900w power supply. I prefer to spend that 160.00 on a better monitor and perhaps save some money as I'm a student.

I might also get just an ordinary CR/DVD Writer because I never watch Blu-Ray DVD's so there is no point paying any extra 30.00.

Questions;

1) Is it really worth 80.00 for a SSD? I have a 2-year Acer Aspire 6935g laptop (still selling today from 700-900!) and it boots the OS and applications pretty fast and it has much less ghz, ram and a slow harddrive than this current build.

2) Should I have get a Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3P Z68 or a Asrock z68 extreme4 gen3? I was recommend the former from a professional pc builder (amongst other pc related things) as they are reliable but I want the PCI-E 3.0 because I may want to get a better graphics card next year. Any advice? They are the same price so money is not a factor.

3) Would a Asrock z68 extreme4 gen3 fit in my case and could it go 570 SLI if I wanted?

Thanks for your help!

Beresford






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Old September 8, 2011, 10:09 AM
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I'm using a hard drive (not SSD) running on a SATA 3 port, my windows boot takes about 30 sec? I'm not too concerned about waiting for things to load as they really aren't that bad. So, SSD if you want the best boot and load times, otherwise, just make sure you get a hard drive (and mobo) with SATA 3 connections and it won't be too bad.
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Old September 8, 2011, 10:12 AM
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You will notice faster boot time with an ssd -either using the ssd as a pure boot drive, or using the Z68 caching ability.

As for the mobo, I am not even sure if video cards are able to saturate PCI-E 2 lanes yet, let alone need PIC-E 3. People with a bit more knowledge than I can add more on that. You will need a CPU that supports PCI-E 3 to make full use that new tech, I don't think current SB cpus natively support that yet so that will require an upgrade in the future.

The Asrock board will fit in your case with no issues, and should have no problems going SLI if you wanted to.

edit-- PCI-E 3 support is built into the Ivy Bridge cpus due to come out in the April '12 time frame.
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Old September 8, 2011, 10:40 AM
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I can only really offer something on 1)

I'm using a hard drive (not SSD) running on a SATA 3 port, my windows boot takes about 30 sec? I'm not too concerned about waiting for things to load as they really aren't that bad. So, SSD if you want the best boot and load times, otherwise, just make sure you get a hard drive (and mobo) with SATA 3 connections and it won't be too bad.
Hi,

What is the difference between SATA II and SATA III and could you recommend a good HDD for the latter?

Thanks!
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Old September 8, 2011, 05:19 PM
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Thanks for your help on this board. I finally bought the following;

Components

Intel Sandybridge i5-2500K Unlocked Core i5 Quad-Core Processor (3.30GHz, 6MB Cache, Socket 1155)* RETAIL
Corsair CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9 8GB 1600MHz CL9 DDR3 Vengeance Memory Two Module Kit
Asus GTX 580 Direct Cu II 1536MB
60Gb OCZ Agility 3 SSD Read 525MB s Write 475MB s
OZC Mounting Bracket
Samsung F3 HD103SJ 1TB internal Hard Drive SATAII 32MB Cache 7200RPM OEM
Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3P Z68 Motherboard
HAF-922 Mid Tower
Corsair CMPSU-850AXUK Professional Series Gold 850W Power Supply
Samsung SH-S222A/BEBE Internal DVD Writer
Genuine Windows 7 Home Edition x64
Netgear WG111 Wireless 54Mbps USB 2.0 Adapter
Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus
Artic Silver Thermal Paste

Accessories

Creative GigaWorks T40 Series II
LG W2486L - LCD display - TFT - LED backlight - 24" - widescreen - 1920 x 1080 / 60 Hz - 250 cd/m2 - 2000000:1 (dynamic) - 2 ms

Cost me 1530.00 in total.

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Old September 8, 2011, 05:35 PM
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Well, Sata III is the 6Gbp/s lane, while Sata II is 3Gbp/s. So it is basically like a DDR. But anyway, the SSD really is worth it. If you can afford it, go with a Sata III one since it can actually use all the bandwidth the Sata III port on your motherboard has to offer, like you have. But, from what I've seen, the OCZ SSD's have a pretty high failure rate. I would stay away from that if I were you. Right now SSD's can be kind of touchy, since they are pretty new compared to the old and perfected HDD. BTW, a good SSD would be from a company like Crucial. And unless you really like Arctic Silver, the Hyper 212+ comes with thermal paste.
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Old September 9, 2011, 03:13 AM
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Well, Sata III is the 6Gbp/s lane, while Sata II is 3Gbp/s. So it is basically like a DDR. But anyway, the SSD really is worth it. If you can afford it, go with a Sata III one since it can actually use all the bandwidth the Sata III port on your motherboard has to offer, like you have. But, from what I've seen, the OCZ SSD's have a pretty high failure rate. I would stay away from that if I were you. Right now SSD's can be kind of touchy, since they are pretty new compared to the old and perfected HDD. BTW, a good SSD would be from a company like Crucial. And unless you really like Arctic Silver, the Hyper 212+ comes with thermal paste.
I already bought the OCZ SSD :(

Hopefully mine will not have too much of an issue. Had no idea that thermal paste cam with the Hyper 212+, oh well it was only 5.75 anyway.

Thanks for the advice anyway, I will look at a SATA II the next time I'm looking for a SSD/HHD.
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