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Old August 22, 2011, 02:27 PM
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Hello group,

My old desktop needs to be replaced. I am building a new system to play COD3 and BF3 and general computing activities. Here is my hypothetical build. Please do not hesitate to make constructive criticism. In addition, would like to buy a "full tower case", which one are you recommending?!

ASRock Z68 PROFESSIONAL GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

EVGA SuperClocked 012-P3-1572-AR GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

KINGWIN Lazer Gold Series LZG-1000 1000W ATX 12V v2.2 / EPS 12V v2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply

Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I72600K

Crucial M4 CT064M4SSD2 2.5" 64GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

Crucial M4 CT256M4SSD2 2.5" 256GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) Desktop Memory Model F3-17000CL11Q-16GBXL

LITE-ON Black 12X BD-R 2X BD-RE 16X DVD+R 12X DVD-RAM 8X BD-ROM 8MB Cache SATA 12X Blu-ray Burner with Blu-ray 3D feature IHBS112-29 - OEM

Office 2010 Home and Business Product Key Card (no media)

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit - OEM

COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7

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Old August 22, 2011, 02:45 PM
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Off the top of my head I would change the following:
mobo. For that coin...get a Asus P67 Sabertooth and save about 1bill...or get a Asus Deluxe for the same coin as the Asrock. (Imho ASUS > Asrock). Gb also make good kit, or EVGA. Any of those 3 companies would be better choices IMHO. YMMV. :)

PSU. Why a 1000watts? You only have 1 570 gpu...unless its two??

SSD. Why TWO? Stick with the 256 and get a 1TB wd black sata 6 for apps. No real need for a 64 M4 AND a 256'er ;)

Ram. 2 bills for 16gb is NUTS. You can get Corsair Vengeance Blue 16gb kit for about 130-140 (or less)...or gskill kit for less. Try ncix instead of the egg. and save yourself some coin. ;)

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For cases I like Cooler Master. The HAF-X is a great case...IF you can get used to the looks. Another great company (if you can afford it) is Lian Li and SilverStone make good cases too.
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Old August 22, 2011, 02:47 PM
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1: don't go with a Fatal1ty board, they're overpriced junk.
2: go with a namebrand PSU, and 1000W is overkill for that system.
3: why two different sized SSDs? why not two 64GB or a 64GB and a WD 1TB black and setup intel SRT.

other then that, it looks good.
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Old August 22, 2011, 03:26 PM
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get a gtx 580 for gpu.

the laser gold is a good unit, like it was said kinda overkill.

one hx650 will do the jobbe without oc'ing, if you want to oc get the 850

i dont see a haf 912 in your selection :)
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Old August 23, 2011, 03:09 PM
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Hi fellows,

Thank you for the tips.

Why are you recommending both a SSD and an HDD?

What is the configuration you are recommending for these?? Place the Windows 7 Ultimate O/S on the SSD and everything else on the HDD??

I do not understand.

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Old August 23, 2011, 03:23 PM
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That CPU cooler, from experience, is horrible. I'd suggest not buying it, the fan is hopeless and a pain to get on.
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What is the configuration you are recommending for these?? Place the Windows 7 Ultimate O/S on the SSD and everything else on the HDD??
That's pretty much it
Put the OS and any programs that have a lot of little files that you want to load really fast on the SSD. Everything else goes to the HDD. Personally I put OS and any program that isn't a game on SSD (older Kingston 128GB) and everything else goes to my hard disk, a WD Caviar Black. Also if you want to keep a page file, put that on the HDD.

If you get a 120 GB or larger drive, you can put big programs or games on the SSD depending on how many you have installed. Unless you want win the little race of loading bars in online / LAN games, a Caviar Black or other recent 7200RPM drive gives perfectly acceptable loading times for a lot less money. That's because most of the loading time in games is loading and then processing large files (textures, maps, etc) that don't benefit as much from the increased IOPS (input / output operations per second) of a solid state drive.

EDIT: Why Win7 Ultimate? Do you need Bitlocker or a pile of language packs?
Compare Windows - Microsoft Windows
At most use Professional - it has all the features of Home Premium and adds image backup capability + some business stuff like domain and Windows XP mode which you may not require. Win7 isn't like Vista where the business version crippled DVD playback
If you won't be using those features, go down to Home Premium even - the only programs that won't run on Home Premium but run on the other two tiers are generally not used by common users. (e.g. a very small number of programming environment add-ons)
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That CPU cooler, from experience, is horrible. I'd suggest not buying it, the fan is hopeless and a pain to get on.

That cooler is probably the best bang for your buck cooler on the market right now with a VERY good fan. Stays slow and quiet until it NEEDS to ramp up. Only thing is the egg is out to lunch on the price. You can get it for 5 bucks cheaper EASILY. Hell it goes on sale every so often for like 22 bucks. ;)

And like the last poster. +1 on stepping down a couple notches on the OS. Ultimate is not really needed unless you really, really need something only it can offer. I use it because I got technet and have 10 keys of each version of win 7....but I wouldnt pay the MSRP for it!

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Ok, I would say I agree with a lot of what others have said.

Memory: NCIX.com - Buy Corsair CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9 Vengeance 8GB 2X4GB DDR3-1600 CL9-9-9-24 Dual Channel Memory Kit - Corsair - CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9 - in Canada

Motherboard: NCIX.com - Buy ASUS P8Z68-V Pro Z68 LGA1155 ATX 3PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 2 PCI B3 Motherboard - ASUS - P8Z68-V PRO - in Canada

Video Card: Stick with the 570 or go with the 580 is you have the money NCIX.com - Buy EVGA GeForce GTX 580 Fermi 772MHZ 1536MB GDDR5 2XDVI Mini-HDMI PCI-E Video Card - eVGA - 015-P3-1580-AR - in Canada

PSU: NCIX.com - Buy Corsair Professional Series Gold AX850 CMPSU-850AX 850W ATX Fully Modular 80PLUS Gold Power Supply - Corsair - CMPSU-850AX - in Canada (maybe even a little much, I have dual 580's on mine, but it would give you the headroom to SLI in the future)

SSD: Either stick with the Crucial or go with either of these: (I lean towards Corsair for excellent customer service, and all three are top performers, with the OCZ maybe getting a tiny edge)
NCIX.com - Buy OCZ Vertex 3 Max Iops 240GB 2.5IN SATA3 6Gbps Sandforce SF-2281 Solid State Disk Flash Drive SSD - OCZ Technology - VTX3MI-25SAT3-240G - in Canada
NCIX.com - Buy Patriot PW240GS25SSDR Wildfire Series 240GB 2.5IN SATA3 Solid State Disk Flash Drive SSD - Patriot - PW240GS25SSDR - in Canada
NCIX.com - Buy Corsair Force Series GT 240GB SSD SATA3 Solid State Disk 555MB/S Read Sandforce SF-2200 - Others - CSSD-F240GBGT-BK - in Canada

Now as for a case I would say maybe take a look at some of the Corsair offerings. The 800D or 700D for full tower, or the 650D or 600T for large mid-towers. I know I have the 650D and it is great.

Also I agree with the others on the OS, there really isn't any need for Ultimate, but I think Pro is the way to go.
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Old August 23, 2011, 07:27 PM
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