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Old August 20, 2011, 02:31 AM
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Hi,

I currently have
C2D E6600 2.4Ghz, rarely overclocked to 3, 3.2, 3.4(but cant get it stabilized)
Gigabyte P35-DS3R
4GB DDR2 800 Corsair value
Zebronics 8800GT 512MB Stock
160Gb+250Gb HDD
Zebronics 500 W
Asus Xonar D2
Logitech G25

I am confused to go completly for a new build or buy a C2Quad and GTX560Ti and nice PSU.

1. What YOUR PC will be used for. That means what types of tasks you'll be performing.
Gaming, Movies, browsing

2. What YOUR budget is. A price range is acceptable as long as it's not more than a 20% spread
will be buying through buy now pay later if the budget goes above 200.. (so budget is not a problem)..

3. What country YOU will be buying YOUR parts from.
UK

4. IF YOU have a brand preference. That means, are you an Intel-Fanboy, AMD-Fanboy, ATI-Fanboy, nVidia-Fanboy, Seagate-Fanboy, WD-Fanboy, etc, etc, etc, you get the picture.
Intel, nVidia, Gigabyte

5. If YOU intend on using any of YOUR current parts, and if so, what those parts are.
Sound card, Monitor, HDDs

6. IF YOU have searched and/or read similar threads.
I have searched all over internet, mostly got suggested to buy just a 560ti...

7. IF YOU plan on overclocking or run the system at default speeds.
Little bit of overclocking

8. WHEN do you plan to build it?
in 1 month

9. What resolution do you use?
1920x1080


Thanks
Denny
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Old August 20, 2011, 04:24 AM
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I'd currently suggest a definite upgrade with motherboard and cpu. It seems like a bottleneck to me.
Go for the 560ti, but your current cpu would most definitely hold you back. Possibly think about moving to a second gen i3 if it's within your budget, meaning you'd have to get a 1155 socket.
Current PSU may be fine but I'd suggest going up to a 600w for more juice.
What website do you buy from?

I'd personally suggest 3ghz is recommendedfrom a processor so try this if you don't want to upgrade your motherboard:
Intel Dual Core E6800 2 x 3.33Ghz 2MB Cache 1066 FSB Dual Core Processor
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I'd currently suggest a definite upgrade with motherboard and cpu. It seems like a bottleneck to me.
Go for the 560ti, but your current cpu would most definitely hold you back. Possibly think about moving to a second gen i3 if it's within your budget, meaning you'd have to get a 1155 socket.
Current PSU may be fine but I'd suggest going up to a 600w for more juice.
What website do you buy from?
Thanks, for the reply. If going for a new build I will be aiming for a i5 2500K + z68, but still confused about 560ti or 570, they have difference of 60 pounds is it worth ? I will be buying at scan.co.uk. I should defenitly change that PSU, it got beaten I think.
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Old August 20, 2011, 04:34 AM
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Thanks, for the reply. If going for a new build I will be aiming for a i5 2500K + z68, but still confused about 560ti or 570, they have difference of 60 pounds is it worth ? I will be buying at scan.co.uk. I should defenitly change that PSU, it got beaten I think.
Okay so I'll suggest this:
I've benchmarked both of these products on an old intel machine I used in the past. For me there was a 10-20% increase in fps for the 570 so I'd say it's worth it.
The PSU? Use this:
Corsair TX 650W V2 ATX2.31 80 PLUSŪ Bronze Power Supply
It's cheap, it'll give you extra juice if you ever need to upgrade and it's pretty great with the 80+.

For processor? I'd definitely suggest an upgrade at the least. You could try what I suggested in the previous post. It'd go nicely with the 570.
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Okay so I'll suggest this:
I've benchmarked both of these products on an old intel machine I used in the past. For me there was a 10-20% increase in fps for the 570 so I'd say it's worth it.
The PSU? Use this:
Corsair TX 650W V2 ATX2.31 80 PLUSŪ Bronze Power Supply
It's cheap, it'll give you extra juice if you ever need to upgrade and it's pretty great with the 80+.

For processor? I'd definitely suggest an upgrade at the least. You could try what I suggested in the previous post. It'd go nicely with the 570.
Thanks again. How is this PSU ? Scan.co.uk: Antec True Power New 650W Modular Power Supply PSU 80Plus Bronze SLi - 0-761345-0-7600-9

What brands for GFX if I go for 570 ? I saw MSI one (Scan.co.uk: MSI 1280MB GeForce GTX 570 Twin Frozr III Power Edition OC NVIDIA Graphics Card - N570GTX Twin Frozr III Power Edition/OC).. is this good ?
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I was just about to suggest that GPU :)
Antec? Yeah those both will be fine choices.
What did you decide for a cpu?
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If money isn't such a concern then I would upgrade to an i5 2500K & Z68 setup with 4/8GB of DDR3-1600 RAM from Corsair, G Skill or Mushkin Enhanced.

Definitely get the Corsair psu suggested, its a much better quality built unit hands down. I wouldn't get that antec if you're planning on SLI in the future with either a 560Ti or 570, I at least recommend a 750/850W unit instead.

The MSI 570 is good, eVGA is my preferred brand, though MSI, Asus & Gigabyte are all great companies too.

Good luck with your choices & enjoy the upgrades
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Old August 20, 2011, 04:57 AM
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I was just about to suggest that GPU :)
Antec? Yeah those both will be fine choices.
What did you decide for a cpu?
So, its a good GPU. Actually it was somewhat lowest so chose that. :)
Antec is not good ? Antec has 2 x 6+2pin PCI-E Power and 2 x 6pin PCI-E Power,and its semi modular. Just for future proof. :P

Just went through a quick build research, please comment
CPU- i5 2500k

Mobo - Gigabyte z68x-UD3H-B3 Scan.co.uk: Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3 Motherboard

RAM - 2x4GB Corsair vengeance 1600MHz Scan.co.uk: Corsair Memory Vengeance Black 8GB DDR3 1600 MHz CAS 9 XMP Dual Channel Desktop - CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9

HDD - 1TB samsung F3 or 2TB samsung F4 ?

Fan controller - Sentry 2 Scan.co.uk: NZXT Sentry 2, Touch Screen Fan Controller, 5.25" - sentry 2 touch
Please suggest good 120mm fans, i need 5 of them ...

KB - logitech G510 or G110 ?
Mouse - dont know what to choose.... TIll now only had MS basic optical mouse for last 7-8 years

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So, its a good GPU. Actually it was somewhat lowest so chose that. :)
Antec is not good ? Antec has 2 x 6+2pin PCI-E Power and 2 x 6pin PCI-E Power,and its semi modular. Just for future proof. :P

Just went through a quick build research, please comment
CPU- i5 2500k

Mobo - Gigabyte z68x-UD3H-B3 Scan.co.uk: Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3 Motherboard

RAM - 2x4GB Corsair vengeance 1600MHz Scan.co.uk: Corsair Memory Vengeance Black 8GB DDR3 1600 MHz CAS 9 XMP Dual Channel Desktop - CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9

HDD - 1TB samsung F3 or 2TB samsung F4 ?

Fan controller - Sentry 2 Scan.co.uk: NZXT Sentry 2, Touch Screen Fan Controller, 5.25" - sentry 2 touch
Please suggest good 120mm fans, i need 5 of them ...

KB - logitech G510 or G110 ?
Mouse - dont know what to choose.... TIll now only had MS basic optical mouse for last 7-8 years

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Scan.co.uk: Coolermaster SickleFLow Blue LED Quiet Case Fan 120mm - R4-L2R-20AC-GP

^^ Looks great and runs smoothly.
I prefer G-Skill ram as I've never used Corsair for anything other than their PSU's and Cases.
I personally don't care for keyboard, anything floats my boat so you may need another opinion on them.

I'd suggest an SSD for OS partition.
Other than that, seems a reasonable build. Good luck if you proceed :).
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Old August 20, 2011, 06:21 AM
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Antec is a good brand, its just 650W doesn't leave any headroom left if you're considering an 560Ti/570 SLI setup imo. I'd rather recommend a 750/850W just to have the headroom so you're not making your psu work @ 100% load all the time.

As for the parts you've put together, all will run just great, including the Corsair ram For the HDD, the size depends on how much storage you want personally and only get the 7200rpm hard drives for performance.

I would go for the G510 keyboard myself, the included screen for showing cpu temps volts clock rates etc plus game stats and vent/teamspeak info is a huge benefit imo over the G110.

For a mouse, I often find the M500/G500 or G9x being recommended for good gaming mice, besides the Razer DeathAdder or Naga, and the Microsoft Sidewinder X5. Those would be my choices to start looking at 1st and then going from there if they aren't to your liking.

Honestly I can't see the point in putting in a small ssd (say around 20/40GB) just for the OS as you're not putting any programs or games on there since you have to leave some space free, just like you would for a hard drive. You could get a 60GB and set it up for caching instead, using Intel's SRT, or get a 120GB and be happy to be able to put the OS, some programs and some games onto it before allocating the rest to the hard drive/s.

Good luck with your choices & enjoy the upgrades
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