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Evylldemon May 13, 2011 10:02 PM

$1000 budget build
 
Hello again everyone. Putting together a build for a friend. He doesn't play games really, just listens to music, watches movies, general internet browsing but he wants something reasonably powerful and is willing to spend about $1000 before tax.

CPU: i5 2500k $210
Mobo: Gigabyte P67A-UD3P-B3 $140
RAM: 4x2GB G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3-1600 CL9 $75
Case: CM Haf 912 $50
PSU: Corsair TX650 $85
SSD: OCZ Vertex 2 Extended Sandforce 60GB $100
HDD: WD Caviar Green 2TB $70
Video: Gigabyte GTX 460 Fermi 760mhz 1GB 3.4Ghz $130
DVD: Samsung 24x SATA $20
OS: Windows 7 64bit

Total: $1035 + tax

Concerns:
1) I saw the Gigabyte P67-D3-B3 for like $110 and I can't figure out how it is different other than USB3.0 slots. What am I missing?
2) The 8GB (2x4GB) pack of RAM is back ordered. Is there any reason not to get 4x2GB?
3) Should I get an extra fan for the 912? something to mount on the top? any suggestions?

Any other input would also be appreciated. I'll probably overclock a little bit on the stock cooler but nothing crazy; only because the CPU has so much potential it feels wrong to leave it at stock :biggrin:

TIA

jcmaz May 13, 2011 11:02 PM

Why not get 2X4GB ram or less ram or 6GB triple channel ram?

dma0991 May 13, 2011 11:03 PM

The specs that you have listed is a gaming PC. If your friend does not do much or only limited to FB games then you can save a lot more with a Core i3 2100 or Core i5 2400 with a H67 board using Intel HD2000 instead of a discrete GPU.

I know that your friend wants something reasonably powerful but if the needs does not meet the specs then it is not really worth it to get a powerful gaming rig. Perhaps a Vertex 3 will give a better boost in feeling 'powerful' when it comes to music, movies and web browsing.

_dangtx_ May 13, 2011 11:19 PM

and a passive hs perhaps? hr-02 ahem ahem

psu is nice,wayy overkill. with onboard youll be pulling 100 watts at the wall or such

the less sticks the better?

not needed, you wont even plug in the 2 included ones, which btw are better off on top,
if any.

BrutalGreen May 13, 2011 11:56 PM

IMO the UD3 isnt that great of a board...id say go with the UD4+ or look at the offerings from other brands (yes I love gigabyte too but other brands have good products too).

now for the GPU 130$ is good for a 460 but that is if its not the SE version as it is quite a bit weaker...if you only want to spend this kind of money on the gpu take a look at the the new Sapphire Radeon Xtreme HD 5850 that are going for 130$ and have lots of OCing headroom! but tbh if I was building a 1k$ PC id spend much more on the graphics department...but thats just me!

As far as cooling goes you might wana consider a decent after market CPU cooler before additional fans...also the 912 is a nice case with good airflow with the addition of a few extra fans for the money but is no longer the only case in that category atm. not to mention its a dust magnet...if u dont want to spend extra on additional fans take a look at the azza toledo 301 (you still might have the same issues with dust tho), it goes for the same price but comes with an additional gigantic fan on the side panel, and a more modern design imo...

And for ram...as long as ur not doing lots of editing and other ram intensive tasks u wont need more than 4gb but considering how cheap ram is nowdays its not that bad of an idea getting 8gb just in case...however if you really need to keep the cost low cheaping out on ram and forgetting SSDs would be my first moves, not getting budget mobo+gpu+cpu cooler... just me tho...

also is it just me or ur total comes to 880$+OS...how much are you paying for windows? or is that shipping included too?

Edit: its late and I misread that your friend IS A GAMER...if he isnt then you should ignore my rant about spending more on the gpu....without gaming/editing in mind IMO its unwise to spend that kind of money on a PC...he would be way better off with a decent 500$ish build...for his usage scenario he wont even be able to tell the difference...

Edit 2: here are a few tweeks that would help keep the cost down while being more in line with your friend's needs

Core i3 2100 @ 120$ won't notice any difference in performance for his usage tbh and get to save 90$

ECS H61 motherboard @ 54$ once again you get to save (this board is plenty capable of handling an i3 2100)

Cooler Master Elite 360 @ 35$ much more appropriate for the usage and with looks more likely to appeal to a non-gamer audience, while saving money and space!

Mushkin Volta 500W @ 27$ or 650W @ 48$ Both much cheaper quality PSUs that will fit the needs without breaking the bank (honestly the 500W is enough but if you decide to get a dedicated GPU which is not needed the 650W would be a possibility but not rly a must either way)

Sapphire Xtreme HD 5850 @ 133$ now I wouldn't rly suggest a dedicated GPU as the integrated HD2000 is sufficient for his needs but if you rly want a discrete GPU then this would be my recommendation

G.SKILL Ripjaws 1600mhz (2 x 2GB) @ 38$ very decent ram without breaking the bank

Now with all the money you get to save some wise upgrades for your friends usage scenarios would be getting a 2nd vertex 2 for raid0 performance (note tho that with the elite 360 you will need a 5.25 bay adapter for this)

If you rly want a quad core, I would suggest going the AMD route with the 955BE but wouldn't rly suggest spending Intel quad core money for someone who doesn't do anything CPU intensive, as a side effect you will get lower temps too :punk: (AMD 955BE @ 110$, MSI 790FX-GD70 @ 100$ and OCZ Vendetta 2 @ 18$ NOT FORGETTING A BIGGER CASE TO FIT THIS 158mm tall cooler...last 955BE I got was able to get to 4ghz with only 0.02v above stock 24h prime95 stable, so yeah a decent alternative but not needed for some1 like your friend)

All links provided can be pricematched at NCIX so you could order everything there (from prices you mentioned had the feeling thats where you were shopping)

Luay79 May 14, 2011 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evylldemon (Post 514936)
He doesn't play games really, just listens to music, watches movies, general internet browsing but he wants something reasonably powerful and is willing to spend about $1000 before tax.

no apps or hyper threaded apps. The i5 2500K is the top choice for enthusiasts who want to do everything.

1) For $200, get an i3 2100 and H61 motherboard. Locked with no overclocking.
2) Crucial C300 64GB has better $ per GB ratio and mostly similar performance to OCZ Vertex 2
3) Get the cheaper 1,333ghz 2x4GB
4) Pimp up the video card to 6950 1GB
5)400~500W PSU

Good luck on your build!

Evylldemon May 14, 2011 09:08 AM

Wow thank you everyone for such detailed replies. I'll start making some tweaks and post an update later. It's true, I only ever really build gaming PCs and it's been a while since I've even done that.

Can anyone suggest a good case that is especially good about not collecting dust? That was a big complaint about his old PC and the Haf 912 probably won't be any better in that area.

Thanks again!!

jcmaz May 14, 2011 09:31 AM

Antec 300. I know there aren't that many cable management holes, but the dust filtration system in it is excellent.

EDIT: I filled every non-filtered fan slot with exhausting fans and the front filtered ones with intake fans.

Luay79 May 14, 2011 10:52 AM

Thermaltake Armor A90 has dust filters, great air cooling and good cable management.

Evylldemon May 14, 2011 11:27 AM

So I priced together an i3 2100 build with onboard graphics and after talking to my friend he decided he'd rather spend the extra money anyway for a quad core and dedicated graphics. I went a little bit cheaper on the mobo and decided not to OC at all so went with the 2500 rather than 2500k. I was going to choose the 2400 but it's the same price.

CPU: i5 2500 $200
Mobo: MSI P67A-G43 B3 $100
RAM: 4x2GB G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3-1600 CL9 $75
Case: ???
PSU: Corsair 500CVX2 500W $50
SSD: OCZ Vertex 2 Extended Sandforce 60GB $100
HDD: WD Caviar Green 2TB $70
Video: EVGA GTX 460 Fermi 763mhz 1GB $120
DVD: Samsung 24x SATA $20
OS: Windows 7 64bit $95

Total: $840 + tax

This leaves ~$100 for a decent case so I'm still taking suggestions there. Also will 500W be enough for this build? Otherwise I can upgrade to a Seasonic 620W or Corsair 650W for another ~$35


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