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Old April 13, 2011, 05:49 PM
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I agree that the temps are normal. if you're that concerned, you can change the intake/exhaust case fans for higher cfms. If you do, make sure to check the noise rating, dbs. Anything under 20 dbs is pretty darn good.

A previous build was a bit warmer than I liked, it dropped the temps 6 C in temps by switching my fans.

It's cheap way to decrease temps.

Should be a good system, enjoy!
I hope so... as for fand it seems as if my case can only do 120mm ones... and I only have the spot on the removable side wall by the graphics card... (front intake fan is useless due to they way they mounted the hard drive bays (sideways, blocking the fan!)...

I just noticed that my system is allocating (as much as 1 GB extra) some of the main system ram for the video card (even though it's got 1GB of its own), going to have to get the last 4GB of ram sooner than I thought...

I'll edit this post with pics of the inside when I get around to shutting down the tower...

edit: the pic is from canyourunit.com 's listing for Dragon Age 2... love seeing those green check marks!

Edit2: uploaded the album to Facebook and added it to the title of my forum sig.
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Motherboard: Asus M4A78LT-M
Processor: AMD Phenom II X4 840 3.2Ghz
RAM: 8 GB DDR3 (4x 2GB) Kingston Value Ram KVR1333D3N9K2/4G
GRAPHICS: Sapphire Radeon HD 6850 1GB PCI-E
HARD DRIVE: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 SATA 6Gb/s 500GB (Model ST3500413AS)
DVDRW Drive: Samsung SH-S223L/RSBS DVDRW 22X SATA Lightscribe Retail
CASE: Cooler Master RC-P100 (USP 100) Black/Red
POWER SUPPLY: Antec Truepower New 650 - TP-650
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit

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Old April 14, 2011, 07:18 AM
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day 3 of problems on startup...

took a couple of reboots to get it into windows...

the attached pic below, is what i was shown right before it blue screened on me. I am not sure what it is showing me for the error message...

the bluescreen...


Anyhow, I rebooted and started windows normally and its working this time...

Is it a hard drive error, Memory error or is win7-64 just being difficult?

edit: also noticed on startup ever since I got the computer, the ram counter pauses during its count of the RAM in the 3345MB range for a fraction of a second then continues to go through POST as normal, not sure what that is about...
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CUSTOM TOWER 2K11:
Motherboard: Asus M4A78LT-M
Processor: AMD Phenom II X4 840 3.2Ghz
RAM: 8 GB DDR3 (4x 2GB) Kingston Value Ram KVR1333D3N9K2/4G
GRAPHICS: Sapphire Radeon HD 6850 1GB PCI-E
HARD DRIVE: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 SATA 6Gb/s 500GB (Model ST3500413AS)
DVDRW Drive: Samsung SH-S223L/RSBS DVDRW 22X SATA Lightscribe Retail
CASE: Cooler Master RC-P100 (USP 100) Black/Red
POWER SUPPLY: Antec Truepower New 650 - TP-650
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit

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Old April 14, 2011, 07:34 AM
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Uh, superantispyware? mmmk, never heard of that one.

As for the blue screen, it's showing a display adapter issue. It's pretty common.
STOP: 0x00000050 Page_Fault_In_Non-Paged_Area Error After Installing Service Pack 1 (SP1)

Short answer: reinstall video card drivers.
As for the windows errors, i'd be uninstalling the antispyware thing, and finding a better solution like spybot or something.
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Old April 14, 2011, 07:41 AM
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Uh, superantispyware? mmmk, never heard of that one.

As for the blue screen, it's showing a display adapter issue. It's pretty common.
STOP: 0x00000050 Page_Fault_In_Non-Paged_Area Error After Installing Service Pack 1 (SP1)

Short answer: reinstall video card drivers.
As for the windows errors, i'd be uninstalling the antispyware thing, and finding a better solution like spybot or something.
I am running spybot... and MBAM, MS Security Essentials.

my installed catalyst control center version is 2011.0308.2325.42017...

display drivers are Driver Packaging Version 8.831.2-110308a-115928C-ATI

and the fix will also work for windows 7 64-bit?

EDIT: I removed the display driver and the catalyst control center then installed the newly downloaded ones from AMD (released March 29, and am assuming 2011)... hope this works....
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RAM: 8 GB DDR3 (4x 2GB) Kingston Value Ram KVR1333D3N9K2/4G
GRAPHICS: Sapphire Radeon HD 6850 1GB PCI-E
HARD DRIVE: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 SATA 6Gb/s 500GB (Model ST3500413AS)
DVDRW Drive: Samsung SH-S223L/RSBS DVDRW 22X SATA Lightscribe Retail
CASE: Cooler Master RC-P100 (USP 100) Black/Red
POWER SUPPLY: Antec Truepower New 650 - TP-650
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit

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Old April 14, 2011, 10:03 PM
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Okay, the BSOD is most likely the Catalyst Driver. I actually ran into some problems myself with Catalyst. There are actually two Versions for each update. Use the one with APP Removed. Hope this fixes your problem.

With 4 Core CPU and a HD6850, you should get a 650 Watt PSU with a Single Rail. That will give you the overhead you need (about 200 watts normal reserve).

The reason I suspect the Catalyst Driver is due to the fact that it doesn't happen every time. If it was a Component or PSU problem, then it would happen on every boot up. Also note that Manufacturers don't list all the Ram that fits their motherboards. If you are unsure just ask the Ram Manufacturer if it's compatible with the MB.

Also Bestbyte Service is good. If they felt that the PSU was too low they would tell you.

If this fixes your problem, PM me. I am keeping track of issues with this APP in Catalyst.
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Old April 14, 2011, 10:13 PM
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Okay, the BSOD is most likely the Catalyst Driver. I actually ran into some problems myself with Catalyst. There are actually two Versions for each update. Use the one with APP Removed. Hope this fixes your problem.

With 4 Core CPU and a HD6850, you should get a 650 Watt PSU with a Single Rail. That will give you the overhead you need (about 200 watts normal reserve).

The reason I suspect the Catalyst Driver is due to the fact that it doesn't happen every time. If it was a Component or PSU problem, then it would happen on every boot up. Also note that Manufacturers don't list all the Ram that fits their motherboards. If you are unsure just ask the Ram Manufacturer if it's compatible with the MB.

Also Bestbyte Service is good. If they felt that the PSU was too low they would tell you.

If this fixes your problem, PM me. I am keeping track of issues with this APP in Catalyst.
what is this APP? Can it be removed manually? I installed the normal 64-bit suite... sofar so good. will find out tomorrow lol... first boot of the day
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Motherboard: Asus M4A78LT-M
Processor: AMD Phenom II X4 840 3.2Ghz
RAM: 8 GB DDR3 (4x 2GB) Kingston Value Ram KVR1333D3N9K2/4G
GRAPHICS: Sapphire Radeon HD 6850 1GB PCI-E
HARD DRIVE: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 SATA 6Gb/s 500GB (Model ST3500413AS)
DVDRW Drive: Samsung SH-S223L/RSBS DVDRW 22X SATA Lightscribe Retail
CASE: Cooler Master RC-P100 (USP 100) Black/Red
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OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
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Old April 15, 2011, 07:03 AM
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Okay, the BSOD is most likely the Catalyst Driver. I actually ran into some problems myself with Catalyst. There are actually two Versions for each update. Use the one with APP Removed. Hope this fixes your problem.

With 4 Core CPU and a HD6850, you should get a 650 Watt PSU with a Single Rail. That will give you the overhead you need (about 200 watts normal reserve).

The reason I suspect the Catalyst Driver is due to the fact that it doesn't happen every time. If it was a Component or PSU problem, then it would happen on every boot up. Also note that Manufacturers don't list all the Ram that fits their motherboards. If you are unsure just ask the Ram Manufacturer if it's compatible with the MB.

Also Bestbyte Service is good. If they felt that the PSU was too low they would tell you.

If this fixes your problem, PM me. I am keeping track of issues with this APP in Catalyst.
got other errors like this this morning when the computer wouldn't start properly, and tried to run the startup repair tool:



selecting the other options in the repair tool gave me similar error messages and eventually
bluescreened with the pagefault_nonpagefault error (minus the memory dump info at the bottom
as in the earlier BSOD pic in the thread)...

I still think this is a RAM error...

I have removed and reinstalled the catalyst drivers (minus the APP),

hopefully this will fix this particular issue.
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Motherboard: Asus M4A78LT-M
Processor: AMD Phenom II X4 840 3.2Ghz
RAM: 8 GB DDR3 (4x 2GB) Kingston Value Ram KVR1333D3N9K2/4G
GRAPHICS: Sapphire Radeon HD 6850 1GB PCI-E
HARD DRIVE: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 SATA 6Gb/s 500GB (Model ST3500413AS)
DVDRW Drive: Samsung SH-S223L/RSBS DVDRW 22X SATA Lightscribe Retail
CASE: Cooler Master RC-P100 (USP 100) Black/Red
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Old April 15, 2011, 09:15 AM
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Hokay, first off.. I hope everything is going ok with your PC now, but if not:

Reseat your video card, ram and power connections on your motherboard / GPU (pretty much everything). Ensure cable management allows good airflow to your CPU and GPU.
As for your power supply, the CM 550W is more than enough for your needs - you're probably running 350W at load with that system, probably less since I don't believe you're overclocking. I'm not familiar with the eXtreme Power series from CM - i've only used the ModXtream models, which I have found to be satisfactory in budget builds.

If you're still having issues, pulling your motherboard out of the case and putting it on a box would determine if you have any shorts on the back of the motherboard - it's a trick most system installers use to see if a brass standoff is shorting the back of the mobo (or something else)

Before that, I would probably reinstall your operating system + install base programs and test. If you're not comfortable with pulling the motherboard out of the case, I would at least do the first few steps (reseating + reinstall) before taking it back to where you purchased it from to let them determine any RMA needed.
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okay problems are not fixed but as of today no sign of the page fault not page fault bluescreen...yet.

however for yesterday and today I have attached text files from a program called bluescreenview which gives the info from my memory dumps...

seems as if the kernel is throwing a fit upon startup (made it past the starting windows screen and into the desktop)...

at least this time i didn't have to system restore so my WoW install is still intact instead of magically disappearing like friday's bluescreen and sys restore...

definitely taking it into bestbyte on monday for proper testing...

here's the pic anyways:

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CUSTOM TOWER 2K11:
Motherboard: Asus M4A78LT-M
Processor: AMD Phenom II X4 840 3.2Ghz
RAM: 8 GB DDR3 (4x 2GB) Kingston Value Ram KVR1333D3N9K2/4G
GRAPHICS: Sapphire Radeon HD 6850 1GB PCI-E
HARD DRIVE: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 SATA 6Gb/s 500GB (Model ST3500413AS)
DVDRW Drive: Samsung SH-S223L/RSBS DVDRW 22X SATA Lightscribe Retail
CASE: Cooler Master RC-P100 (USP 100) Black/Red
POWER SUPPLY: Antec Truepower New 650 - TP-650
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit

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Old April 16, 2011, 10:24 PM
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okay problems are not fixed but as of today no sign of the page fault not page fault bluescreen...yet.

however for yesterday and today I have attached text files from a program called bluescreenview which gives the info from my memory dumps...

seems as if the kernel is throwing a fit upon startup (made it past the starting windows screen and into the desktop)...

at least this time i didn't have to system restore so my WoW install is still intact instead of magically disappearing like friday's bluescreen and sys restore...

definitely taking it into bestbyte on monday for proper testing...

here's the pic anyways:

my current conversation with Asus in their forums:

ASUSTeK Computer Inc.-Forum- questions about the M4A78LT-M

It's kind of related to this.
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CUSTOM TOWER 2K11:
Motherboard: Asus M4A78LT-M
Processor: AMD Phenom II X4 840 3.2Ghz
RAM: 8 GB DDR3 (4x 2GB) Kingston Value Ram KVR1333D3N9K2/4G
GRAPHICS: Sapphire Radeon HD 6850 1GB PCI-E
HARD DRIVE: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 SATA 6Gb/s 500GB (Model ST3500413AS)
DVDRW Drive: Samsung SH-S223L/RSBS DVDRW 22X SATA Lightscribe Retail
CASE: Cooler Master RC-P100 (USP 100) Black/Red
POWER SUPPLY: Antec Truepower New 650 - TP-650
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
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