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Old March 15, 2011, 01:34 PM
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Got a client who wants a new PC for gaming, he mentioned it would be for newer strategy and RTS games.

His budget is £600. These parts come to £549 (assuming Antec 100 is being used).

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Antec One Hundred 100 Case - All Black Interior
Antec One Hundred 100 Case - All Black Interior | Ebuyer.com
£41.48

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Coolermaster Elite 430 All Black Interior Mid Tower Case with Side Window
Coolermaster Elite 430 All Black Interior Mid Tower.. | Ebuyer.com
£34
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Sapphire HD 5770 1GB GDDR5 Dual DVI HDMI DisplayPort HDCP PCI-E Graphics Card
Sapphire HD 5770 1GB GDDR5 Dual DVI HDMI DisplayPort.. | Ebuyer.com
£101

Gigabyte GA-H55M-UD2H H55 Socket 1156 VGA DVI HDMI Out 8 CHannel Audio mATX Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-H55M-UD2H H55 Socket 1156 VGA DVI HDMI Out.. | Ebuyer.com
£75

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium - Licence and media - 1 PC - OEM - DVD - 64-bit - English
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium - Licence and media.. | Ebuyer.com
£72

Corsair 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 1333MHz XMS3 Memory Kit CL9 unbuffered
Corsair 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 1333MHz XMS3 Memory Kit CL9.. | Ebuyer.com
£36

Intel Core i3 560 3.33GHz Socket 1156 4MB Cache Retail Boxed Processor
Intel Core i3 560 3.33GHz Socket 1156 4MB Cache Retail.. | Ebuyer.com
£110

Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro rev 2 Socket 775, 1156, 1155, 1366, AM2, AM3 Heatpipe CPU Cooler
Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro rev 2 Socket 775, 1156.. | Ebuyer.com
£15

Corsair 500W CX PSU - 5x SATA 2x PCI-Express
Corsair 500W CX PSU - 5x SATA 2x PCI-Express | Ebuyer.com
£47

Western Digital WD5000AAKS 500GB SATAII 7200RPM 16MB Cache - OEM Caviar Blue
Western Digital WD5000AAKS 500GB SATAII 7200RPM 16MB.. | Ebuyer.com
£30

Samsung SH-S223 22x DVD±RW DL & RAM SATA Optical Drive - OEM Black
Samsung SH-S223 22x DVD±RW DL & RAM SATA.. | Ebuyer.com
£12

(x2) Xilence Black 120mm Case Fan - 4pin with 3pin adaptor
Xilence Black 120mm Case Fan - 4pin with 3pin adaptor | Ebuyer.com
£9

TOTAL
£549
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Old March 15, 2011, 02:31 PM
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you can go with the 430, i3 530 and make the hdd 1tb or get a dedicated gpu if he needs more hp in that area
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Old March 15, 2011, 02:43 PM
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Sry I'm not too knowledgeable about British pricing, but imo AMD would offer better bang for buck over an i3 (cheaper processors/cheaper mobos/less heat needing cheaper coolers) and you should be able to use the extra money on a better gpu or going quad or even both...

From the website u seem to be using:

CPU:
Great overclockable cheap dual core that can be unlocked to a quad if lucky: Phenom II X2 555BE @ £70 (save £40)
A stock quad core overclockable (even past 4ghz with cheap coolers) @ £108 (save £2)

MOBO:
Decent mobo but quite a bit cheaper @ £50 (save £25)
Great mobo with good crossfire/overclocking support (possibility to add a cheap dedicated physx card too if u go to the green camp) @ £68 (save £7)

GPU:
WAY WAY WAY better than a 5770 @ £130 (£29 more)
Although if his budget can permit id spend even more on this (GTX 560ti and HD 6950 2GB unlockable models are great choices) and get a psu with appropriate power rating (see Corsair CX 600)

Also I personally rather the NZXT gamma over the antec 100 and its cheaper:
NZXT Gamma @ £36 (save £5)

Your current PSU is a great 500W unit although id pay the extra £4 and get the 600W model:
Corsair CX 600W @£51 (£4 more)

P.S. note that multi-GPU setups pretty much need a quad to not get bottlenecked although most games cant use more than 2 threads. Also a few current games and probably many many future games will probably be written for multi-threaded systems...
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Old March 15, 2011, 02:57 PM
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Here are some much better GPUs if budget permits:

Gigabyte GTX 560 ti OC @ £187 (can be overclocked to 1ghz getting similar performance to the stock gtx 570)

PowerColor HD 6950 2GB Dual Fan @ £205 (one of the only 6950 2gb cards with a non reference cooler that can still be unlocked to a 6970)

Oddly enough these are the cheapest GTX 560 and HD 6950 respectively on that website...weird!
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Old March 15, 2011, 02:59 PM
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I was just about to ask why Intel considering AMD is a fair amount cheaper and just as good for gaming ,but I see that Brutalgreen posted some good hardware (AMD) links and prices which is good and I agree with
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for value builds, i still think the i3 530/540 whichever is on special and or cheaper at the moment of purchase is the better buy

you can find very cheap and decent boards for it. and for the gpu, the 5770 will be fine in most games that are not too demanding, and

good on the juice as well. the i3 will pack a better punch, and will only lose to amd quads in a couple of applications. overclock both and itll still leave
the quad amd chip behind, at least in most situations.
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looks good to me, might wanna consider evga 550ti.
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Old March 15, 2011, 03:17 PM
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Just looked it up and £600 = $950CAD

with that kind of money you can get a 955BE with GTX 560 ti SLI setup here in Canada. Basically the system I ordered just a week ago cost me $1050 but cost could have easily been dropped to $950 for gaming only in mind (cheaper case, less fans, dropping the dual 1tb raid setup, getting a cheaper version of the gtx 560, shopping parts from separate retailers, etc)...

I duno how things go in GB but to me the sub total seems kind of off... here is a the component list of that rig:



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looks good to me, might wanna consider evga 550ti.
the new 550 ti performs barely better than a 5770 but costs more and just came out...thats a fail in my book after a series of recent win for nVidia!

P.P.S. its not about how that rig he put together can run games, ofc an i3 + 5770 can play games..thing is for the money its way under-performing imho!

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Old March 15, 2011, 03:22 PM
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looks good to me, might wanna consider evga 550ti.
Not worth it... The 550 ti is more expensive and inferior to the GTX 460 and it is at the same price you can get an HD 6850 which is way better than it.

The new 550 ti's are quite underwhelming actually they are cool and quiet but their performance to dollar ratio is not very good.

For the OP for an extra 100 your client could have a i5 sandy birdge build and be way better off especially because RTS's are very CPU dependant.

I understand it is your clientss budget but he is much better off puting out that extra $100 now and then he can save himself a year or two before a new upgrade. If they can't squeeze it they can't squeeze it but right now if you can get away with waiting, waiting until you can build SB is your best bet buying anything other than SB is buying dead at this point IMHO.

Okay this is what I have for you if you can find somewhere to pricematch so you don;t need to go all over the place that would be awesome but I'm not from the UK so I don't know.

GPU: Radeon HD 6850

Case: Antec One Hundred 100 Case - All Black Interior | Ebuyer.com

CPU: Intel Core i5 2500K 3.3GHz Socket 1155 6MB Cache.. | Ebuyer.com

Mobo: Asus P8P67-M iP67 Socket 1155 8 Channel Audio mATX.. | Ebuyer.com

Ram: G-Skill 4GB DDR3 1333MHz Ripjaws Memory Module CL9.. | Ebuyer.com

Optical drive: whatever the cheapest one you find is... They are pretty good even cheap

HDD: Samsung SpinPoint F3 Desktop Class HD103SJ hard drive 1 TB SATA300

PSU: Corsair CMPSU-650HXUK 650W Power Supply: Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories

Subtotal: 584.52 add 15 for a optical drive

The only problem is now there is no windows 7 so another 72 for windows 7 and you are over budget, but for 70 extra you have 3x the computer.

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Old March 15, 2011, 11:14 PM
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Here is why I think that you should go for an AMD build instead of the Intel. If you had a lot more money and got something like a Core i5 760 for example then I won't say a thing but a Core i3 560 is totally out of the question. A 2C/4T processor is not going to outmatch a 4C/4T processor anytime soon.

As for the LGA1156, it is a sort of a dead end platform as you won't see Intel releasing any LGA1156 processors because their LGA1155 is such a huge success.

However with an AMD platform that still uses the Socket AM3 there might be a possibility that you could still upgrade to a Bulldozer based processor with just a BIOS update AMD FX Zambezi Processors Compatible with ASUS AM3 Motherboards Using BIOS Update | techPowerUp
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