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Old February 26, 2011, 01:25 PM
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i will OC my cpu so i need good air flow = current case
current psu = can't find any other that have 600+W and are rear fanned!

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NO INTEL OR NVIDIA!!!!! I DONT HAVE BUDGET FOR THESE!
(an equivalent nvidia card for radeon one are 100$+)
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You will get better gaming performance for less money with the build I suggested to you. So yes, you do have the budget for Intel and nvidia. What you don't have the budget for is a HAF 932.

There is no point in overclocking for the sake of gaming if you're going to use a sub $100 video card. But the 922 will also allow you to overclock nearly as well on air as a 932.

The inclusion of a rear fan isn't the most important factor for the power supplies in your price range. For your build, you do not need a 600W power supply.
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Old February 26, 2011, 01:26 PM
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i give up lol.

ok the at least stick with a phenom II (l3 cache will make a difference)

ps yes you do have the budget. also you can find h55 mobos in the 60-80 dollar range, yet more savings
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Old February 26, 2011, 03:29 PM
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AMD Phenom II X4 840 Quad Core Processor AM3 3.2GHZ 2MB L2 Cache 95W Retail Box - DirectCanada
ASUS M4A87TD/USB3 AM3 DDR3 ATX AMD 870GX SB850 PCI-E16 PCI-E1 2PCI SATA 6GB/S USB3.0 Motherboard - DirectCanada
Newegg.ca - Mushkin Enhanced Silverline 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model 996946
NCIX.com - Buy Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB SATA3 6GB/S 7200RPM 64MB Cache 3.5IN Dual Proc Hard Drive OEM - Western Digital WD - WD1002FAEX - in Canada
Buy CORSAIR [CMPSU-500CX] Corsair Builder Series CMPSU-500CX 500W ATX Power Supply Active PFC 120MM Fan *2 Year Wrty*
Buy COOLERMASTER [RC-912-KKN1] Coolermaster Haf 912 Black Mid Tower ATX Case 4X5.25 1X3.5 6X3.5INT No PS Front USB Sound
Total: $437.54

Then either of these:
Buy Gigabyte [GV-N560OC-1GI] Gigabyte GeForce GTX 560 Fermi 900MHZ 1GB 4.0GHZ GDDR5 2XDVI Mini HDMI DIRECTX11 PCI-E Video Card
Newegg.ca - SAPPHIRE 100312-1GSR Radeon HD 6950 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card

Bringing the total to about $682.54. Plus whatever taxes you have in your province should bring it right around $750.

This will be capable of playing current generation games and everything that's due out this year too. All of your build lists will not IMO. Unless you like playing at low settings that is, or low resolution.
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doesnt the 840 miss l3 cache? :)
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doesnt the 840 miss l3 cache? :)
Hmm didn't realize. I thought all Phenom II's did but I guess AMD wants to play tricks on me

DirectCanada page says it does, but clearly that's not the case looking at other sites.

So swap the Phenom II X4 840 for this: AMD Phenom II X2 555 Dual Core Processor AM3 3.2GHZ 6MB L3 Cache 80W 45NM Retail Box - DirectCanada assuming it's mainly for gaming, dual-core is sufficient. Saves $12 too!
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:)

trouble is the i3 530 is very very close,. so close id call it almost the same. and we all know how it turns out
when you clock both :)
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trouble is the i3 530 is very very close,. so close id call it almost the same. and we all know how it turns out
when you clock both :)
I think the i3 route makes more sense if for no other reason than the option to upgrade all the way up to an i7, but the OP appears adamantly against purchasing Intel products -- which I can actually admire a little. I don't know offhand, but I assume it may also be better for most games(?)
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well since most programs dont actually make proper use of 4 cores, the i3 is a winner.
better performance per ghz, better power consumption. now if he were to do something heavier?
a quad phenom Ii would spank it good, be it stock or oc'ed. theres only a couple of games where the
amd quad will be better. then try to clock both....youll see another maybe another 50-75 watts at the wall
for the i3, but for the amd itll be more. which requires bigger psu...better cooling..etc etc.
ive built a few i3's lately with super cheap h55 boards, maybe 60 or so bucks, and while you
wont break any oc records on them they clock like mad for the price paid.

you wont be able to do the same, and get away with(longterm) it with the amd quad. that will require quite a bit more
from the mobo. so overall, the i3 is the winner, at least in me book.

took me a while to get over it and buy/build the intel duallie with ht... vs the amd quad at the same price....:D


edit : also, while clocking the newer intel chippies is fun and easy, i frikkin hate that qpi bastard.
its worse than a mother in law on crack lol
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Old February 26, 2011, 10:14 PM
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wait for the sandybridge!
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Old February 27, 2011, 01:40 PM
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You can buy a better cpu with your budget. As the others have pointed out, most games don't use more than two cores.

$60 (after $10 MIR) MSI mATX H55 motherboard + $111 i3-530 CPU. This is nearly equivalent to what you're spending for an AMD CPU/mobo on your budget.

The i3-530 blows away its competition (Athlon II X4 630) in gaming performance. This benchmark is only at 1680x1050 resolution. It has exceptional overclocking potential in comparison (over 4GHz is normal using a stock cooler) and still more efficient. Now, if you were doing something that utilizes more cores, going with AMD would make sense. We're just trying to help you get the best bang for your buck.
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