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Old February 21, 2011, 01:10 PM
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First off I would like to say, it's nice to see a Canadian site like this.

Anyways, on to the details. My main question is whether the size of PSU I have chosen will be enough for everything I have, and then any additional info given on setup would be great. Like it says in the title, this is my first project, I'm new to this, decided to build it myself rather than purchase from futureshop or whatever. Been poking around a bit and would like to have everything right, before I make the purchases. The computer I own right now, is about 7 years old, and can barely keep up with Firefox. I'm looking for a PC that can pretty much collaborate my PS3 and home PC into one (as I'm planning to sell my PS3), with a bit better performance. I will be keeping the mid-tower case, I am a welder/fabricator by trade so it will be getting cut up to accommodate for fans/airflow and a side panel window, paint also. Case is 20cm x 41cm x 46cm, top mounted PSU, 4 5.25" bays, 2 3.5" bays. Pictures here. If all goes well maybe I'll make this a before/after thread.

Might as well use this:

1. What YOUR PC will be used for. Games occasionally, HD movies occasionally, home PC.

2. What YOUR budget is. ~$1500

3. What country YOU will be buying YOUR parts from. Canada, Newegg.ca (although I believe some parts are shipped from US)

4. IF YOU have a brand preference. AMD for CPU, prefer nVidia, will go ATI/AMD if the price matches the performance.

5. If YOU intend on using any of YOUR current parts, and if so, what those parts are. Case

6. IF YOU have searched and/or read similar threads. Been researching a little, have read a few threads on here before.

7. IF YOU plan on overclocking or run the system at default speeds. If overclocking is possible with my budget, yes.

8. WHEN do you plan to build it? Next month or so.

9. What resolution do you use? Highest that is stable.



Alright, list of parts I have picked out so far:
Prices are from Newegg.

Video Card - EVGA SSC+ GTX 460 - $200
CPU - AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition + Motherboard - MSI 890FXA-GD65 AM3 Combo - $290
Cooler Master V8 heatsink $70
Artic Silver Thermal Paste - $10
Power
- RAIDMAX HYBRID 2 RX-730SS - $70
Memory
- Kingston HyperX (2x4GB) 1600 - $99
Fans - COOLER MASTER Excalibur 120mm (x2) - $25
Apevia 80mm (x2) - $4
Scythe Kaze Master Fan Controller - $36
Drive
- LG Blu-Ray Drive $70
HDD - Western Digital Green 2TB $85
OS - Windows 7 64bit - $110
Monitor
- ASUS ML228H - $165

$1424.56 (inc. tax/ship)

Plus:
Antec Veris Multimedia Premier $80
USB 3.0 3.5" bay hub
Hyper X Memory cooler black $21

I appreciate any help you can give me. Thanks.

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Old February 21, 2011, 01:25 PM
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thank you and welcome.

1. What YOUR PC will be used for. Games occasionally, HD movies occasionally, home PC.


based on that you could build a really nice and cheap i3 system. gigabyte board. the works.

9. What resolution do you use? Highest that is stable.

get a 6950 2gb

antec earthwatts 500 for psu will be plenty

one ssd for os, the 2tb green will be perfect for storage

get a 24 incher for monitor, samsung and so on.

why dont you try an hr-02 for cooling? can do fanless.


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Old February 21, 2011, 01:46 PM
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A few comments here. :)

1) You can buy superior power supplies from companies like Seasonic, Antec, or Corsair. I guess depending on whether or not you will be using a dual graphics card down the road, you can easily get away with a 650W PSU. In fact, a decent one would be XFX 650W (Seasonic made) psu which costs $70 as well.

2) You can pricematch parts at NCIX, a Canadian company. Use pricebat.ca/shopbot.ca and copy-paste the name of the product you want to buy. You'll save $100-200 easily that way.

3) You don't want to be gaming on a Green drive. They're meant for storage. For $1500, you can easily fit in a SSD or black drive.

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If you can wait till Spring, I would jump on buying Sandybridge as it offers the best performance for its price point, and will last you much longer than what you have listed. I recommend looking at Anandtech for some benchmark comparisons between the processor you've listed and the i5-2500k, and the i7-950.

I made a post awhile back for someone who wanted to buy a $2000 rig. I've edited it in light of your budget and took into consideration what you've listed as well.

$287 i7 950 (i7-960's should be coming down to the same price if they haven't already)
$200 ASUS Sabertooth X58 mobo
$200 EVGA SSC+ GTX 460
$127 Corsair 60 GB SSD OS/Boot drive
$66 6GB G. Skill RAM 1600
$80 WD 1TB Black HD
$78 XFX 650W PSU
$80 Noctua D14 cooler
$70 LG Blu-Ray Drive
$94 Windows 7
$5 Artic Silver Thermal Paste
$165 ASUS ML228H Monitor

Fans - COOLER MASTER Excalibur 120mm (x2) - $25
Apevia 80mm (x2) - $4
Scythe Kaze Master Fan Controller - $36

Total ~ $1500

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I swapped out the cooler with Noctua's D14. If you're going to spend that much you might as well buy the best (arguably) in class performance/silence. Other options would be the Megahalems, Thermaltake Friio, etc. There's some reviews on this site for these coolers in case you want a comparison. I also added an SSD into your build for some file transfer/load time upgrade!

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Old February 21, 2011, 09:56 PM
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Thanks for the quick reply guys. Those sites really helped, after some digging around I was able to swap to a WD Black 1TB, upgrade to a 24" monitor, and a Corsair 750tx for $2 less than what I had before. I don't think a 6950 would fit in my case, if it did it would be sandwiched between my 2 hdd's. I think I'm going to stick with AMD for the time being. I would like to get the i5 2500k, but that plus an intel mobo, I would have to cut out some of the things I want to have right now, same with an SSD. Once I get the funds to upgrade I definately think I'll swap out though, buy a new case, and sell off the amd and mobo. One question I have though is, will the Corsair 750tx have enough plugs to run all of the fans, fan controller, media controller, hdd's, drives, etc.? And would the XFX 650w? If so, I might go for that, although it seems like the Corsairs are pretty solid.
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Old February 21, 2011, 11:27 PM
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Corsair and XFX PSUs are manufactured by Seasonic. XFX is cheaper because it has lower quality fans so it makes more noise under load. Between the three performance is the same. Best in class.
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Old February 23, 2011, 02:04 PM
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You'll have enough connectors with the 650W PSU. It should have 7 4pin molex connectors in strings of 4 for the fans/controller, and tons of SATA connectors.

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Old February 23, 2011, 11:00 PM
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Video Card - EVGA SSC+ GTX 460 - $200
CPU - AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition + Motherboard - MSI 890FXA-GD65 AM3 Combo - $290
Cooler Master V8 heatsink $70
Artic Silver Thermal Paste - $10
Power
- RAIDMAX HYBRID 2 RX-730SS - $70
Memory
- Kingston HyperX (2x4GB) 1600 - $99
Fans - COOLER MASTER Excalibur 120mm (x2) - $25
Apevia 80mm (x2) - $4
Scythe Kaze Master Fan Controller - $36
Drive
- LG Blu-Ray Drive $70
HDD - Western Digital Green 2TB $85
OS - Windows 7 64bit - $110
Monitor
- ASUS ML228H - $165
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A 6950 1GB will do just fine, and better then your GTX460.

You can grab a 1055T + MSI 790FX + 4GB OCZ ram for 270$ Here

The V8 heatsink is stupid loud, you may as well get something quieter like a corsair H50, they're $45 right now here

Also, you dont need to buy another tube of thermal paste, many after market HSF's have one provided.

For your PSU, I've never seen anything bad or good about kingston, so I can't give my opinion :D.

And since youre saving a few dollars, why not grab a 2TB black instead or keep it and grab a small SSD for your OS.
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Old February 24, 2011, 12:03 PM
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Pick up a small SSD as a boot drive at the very least. I wouldn't use a 2TB WD Green as a primary drive lol
You don't really need a fat cooler like that. Save your money and get the Hyper 212+ for less than 1/2 the price. It's a great bang for the buck and budget cooler.
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