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Old December 20, 2010, 08:56 PM
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I'm fairly new to building computers, I've been researching it for well over a month, checking various sites, and I think I've come up with an array of parts that are within my budget ($700) and should be compatible/work fairly well. I am doin
AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition (125W) Quad Core Socket AM3, 3.2GHz, 8Mb Cache, 1800MHz HT, 45nm (HDZ955FBGMBOX) | Canada Computers
Cooler Master HAF 922 Mid Tower ATX Case (RC-922M-KKN1-GP) | Canada Computers
Antec EA-650 EarthWatts 650W Continuous Power Supply | Canada Computers
NCIX.com - Buy G.SKILL F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL Ripjaws PC3-12800 4GB 2X2GB DDR3-1600 CL9-9-9-24 Core i5 1.5V Memory Kit - F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL In Canada.
NCIX.com - Buy XFX Radeon HD 5750 700MHZ 1Gb 4.6GHZ GDDR5 2XDVI HDMI Display Port DIRECTX11 PCI-E Video Card - HD575XZNFC In Canada.
Asus M4A88T-M LE Socket AM3 AMD 880G + SB710 Chipset ATI Radeon HD 4250 Graphics DDR3 1866(O.C.)/1333/1066 Mhz 8-Channel HD Audio Gigabit LAN 12x USB2.0 6x SATA 6Gb/s 1x PATA Micro ATX | Canada Computers

Any suggestions about different parts I should use? I'm right on budget, so I'd prefer not to go much over. Also, should I buy it now while there are deals on, or should I wait until boxing day? Will there be better prices then?
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Old December 20, 2010, 09:07 PM
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first of all, welcome aboard.

yes, wait for better deals on them.

now what do you ue the pc for? you can do better selection wise, depending on its intended use :)
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Old December 20, 2010, 09:11 PM
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What are you using it for?

TBH I don't see much of a point in getting the 5750, it's old tech and it's only a good bit better than the IGP that comes free with your board. I would assume you want to play games or do something that involves a good deal of GPU usage, but knowing what exactly would help a lot. You could either save a ton and get away with it or cut corners somewhere else to get something that's enough for you.

As for the CPU, $30 more will get you a 6 core processor, $50 less will get you a quad core of similar calibre, only downside is less cache for applications that demand it. Again it depends on what you're using it for which also begs the question of whether or not you'll need a quad core.

With the current build, the PSU doesn't need to have 650W, the 5750 is an incredibly efficient card. It's a good quality PSU, but definitely more than you'll ever need, since your board only has one PCI-E 16x slot.

As for boxing day, you can wait, as the prices right now aren't amazing, but aren't bad either. Most of the good deals seem to have gone by already IMO, you might get some cheap RAM or CPU, but for the most part I don't see a lot of insane deals coming up. (at least compared to Black Friday and before)
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Old December 21, 2010, 08:33 AM
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Sorry, it seems I somehow cut out the part about the intended use :)
Basically, I will be doing mediocre gaming, stuff like guild wars(2), possibly left 4 dead, possibly WoW-esque games, stuff like that. Not anything too hardcore.
So is it really worth it to get a hexacore, or would I be better off with just an athlon x4 or something of the sort?
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Old December 21, 2010, 09:02 AM
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there's no point in getting a hex core if you're just doing light gaming.
A quality 500W ish power supply is more than enough for what you need. I'm a fan of the Corsair builder series, and you see them go on sale quite often. I'd be looking in the $50 range for a PSU. I also like OCZ, although a lot of people dont (for whatever reason) - they are on sale constantly at NCIX, and be picked up on the cheap.

You also forgot to add a hard drive. WD Black 640 gig is what i'd be looking at. If you plan on using an old hard drive, it's ok.. but hopefully it's not an old slow 5400rpm drive, which will bottleneck your system.

The Gskill ram has had some issues with the AMD 880 boards. I've posted this a few times on multiple forums, and i'm not bashing Gskill - just throwing it out there (it's on the Gskill forums also)

The 5750 is an ok card, and will suit your build.

If you plan on overclocking, a cheap Coolermaster CM 212+ will do the trick.
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how about an i3 530/540 on a nice and cheap giga board? the combo will be around 180-200 :)

indeed, the series II stealthxtreams from ocz are decent, better then the predecessor. not seasonic, but decent.
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Sorry, here's the HDD i was planning on getting...
Seagate Barracuda (ST31000528AS) 7200.12 SATA 3.0Gb/s 1000GB (1TB) 32MB Cache (OEM) | Canada Computers

Plus I found this deal, $75 for a triple core:AMD Athlon II X3 445 (95W) Triple Core Socket AM3, 3.1GHz, 1.5Mb Cache, 2000MHz HT, 45nm (ADX445WFGMBOX) | Canada Computers
Plus the MOBO has a switch to automatically unlock any extra cores, so I could potentially get a quad core 3.1 ghz for $75. Any thoughts?

Also I found a corsair 500W builder PSU for only $50, a great deal.
Corsair CMPSU-500CX 500W Power Supply | Canada Computers

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why not go with a dual core BE Phenom II? like this: Newegg.ca - AMD Phenom II X2 555 Black Edition Callisto 3.2GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 80W Dual-Core Desktop Processor - C3 Revision HDZ555WFGMBOX

you should also look into a more recent video card, like the GTX 460.


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how about an i3 530/540 on a nice and cheap giga board? the combo will be around 180-200 :)

indeed, the series II stealthxtreams from ocz are decent, better then the predecessor. not seasonic, but decent.
For the games you plan on playing, I would actually recommend dangtx's idea.

Most of the mentioned games and games in that genre either don't need a quad core or don't make very good use of one.

With games like GW and GW2, they've been designed to have very low minimum requirements, they focus on having "good" graphics via their artwork, not by eating up GPU power. You could honestly run the integrated graphics as a temporary solution and save up for a decent video card like the GTX 460. Plus, since the combo's cheaper you'll have more budget space for a good video card that you might be able to buy right off the bat. (haven't done much math on it) A smaller Gigabyte board would probably make the build even cheaper.

The combo still has 4 threads, if future games are a concern, and the chips overclock past 4ghz quite easily, just need something like a $20 Hyper212 from CM. Don't have to worry too much about the CPU bottlenecking the GPU with so much OC headroom.

Also, what resolution do you plan on playing at?
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Old December 21, 2010, 07:33 PM
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So you're saying it's not even necessary to get a quad core? In which case could you recommend a good motherboard for an i3?
The monitor I have is running at an awkward 1366x768 I believe.

In other news my budget is now at around $800, which should give me a bit more clearance. :)
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