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DSNB November 15, 2010 09:30 AM

First SFF build
Hey, what's up guys? I've decided to rebuild my rig, it's getting little old and beaten up. Not to mention it suddenly became family computer ever since I built it (hahahaha).

I've bought myself a Macbook Pro for university last year but it lacks power to play games I like. So I did some quick research and hopped on to NCIX and picked out some parts for my new gaming rig. Mind you, I want to keep this new rig small, silent and able to play games with some decent setting.

I searched and found SG05, but that one looks way too cramped. Then I stumbled across Lian Li Q11. It looked small, but oddly enough ATX sized PSU gets way too close to the mobo. Q08 looks too big. Sigh, anyways here's my list and the Q&A

1. What YOUR PC will be used for. That means what types of tasks you'll be performing.

It will be used mostly for gaming.

2. What YOUR budget is. A price range is acceptable as long as it's not more than a 20% spread

I am hoping to keep my budget around 1200 CND.

3. What country YOU will be buying YOUR parts from.

Most likely Canada / USA (since it will be NCIX)

4. IF YOU have a brand preference. That means, are you an Intel-Fanboy, AMD-Fanboy, ATI-Fanboy, nVidia-Fanboy, Seagate-Fanboy, WD-Fanboy, etc, etc, etc, you get the picture.

I'm a huge Intel-fanboy and rest can be whatever as it performs great.

5. If YOU intend on using any of YOUR current parts, and if so, what those parts are.


6. IF YOU have searched and/or read similar threads.

Yep, yep yep yep.

7. IF YOU plan on overclocking or run the system at default speeds.

Default speed.

8. WHEN do you plan to build it?

Somewhere between December~March.

9. What resolution do you use?

Somewhere around 1280 x 1024.

Case: Lian Li Q11 / Lian Li Q08

Processor: Intel Core i7 950

CPU Cooler: Corsair H50 / Noctua C12

Ram: Corsair XMS3 DDR3 1333 9-9-9-24 (3x2 GB)

Motherboard: ASUS Rampage III Gene mATX (LGA 1366) / EVGA X58 Micro mATX (LGA 1366)

SSD: Corsair Force 60GB

Power Supply: Seasonic M12II 620W / Silverstone SFX ST45SF 450W

DVD/CD: Some cheap generic one I will buy from the FutureShop.

Video Card: XFX 8800 GT Alpha Dog Edition (I bought 2 back in 2007 or whenever it came out, never used the second one. Sigh.)

Now I have some questions / dilemma.

With Q11
- If I use 620W PSU, will it kill my airflow?
- Would 450W SFX have enough juice for 8800GT and perhaps GTX 460 in the future ? Or is it a no-go.
- Would Noctua C12 fit inside? (I was gonna go for C12, but its just too big )

Now another question. ASUS Rampage III gene is 70 more CND than EVGA X58 Micro. Is it really worth it?

Feel free to leave a comment or two!

YoungMan November 15, 2010 05:30 PM

That 450w psu will be plenty enough to support your system with a gtx 460.

I think you're gonna run into airflow problems with the C12, if it can even fit. If you're not overclocking, it's not necessary to get a giant cooler for a tiny case. Standard or smaller coolers will do fine. Sure, it'll run a bit hotter than in a regular desktop, but that's expected and certainly nothing out of it's specified temperature range.

I would stick with the EVGA board. I speculate the more expensive board just has more overclocking features with bells and whistles.

ZZLEE November 15, 2010 06:32 PM

NCIX.com - Buy Silverstone Lascala LC17B Black ATX HTPC Case 2X5.25 1X3.5 6X3.5INT W/ 2X80MM Case Fan - LC17B In Canada.

Looks pritty:biggrin:

Keltron 3030 November 15, 2010 06:48 PM

Why 900 series i7? why not go 1156?

I honestly think the R3G is way too much man. your better off with the EVGA x58-micro

Also, do you have plans to do SLI in the future? If so, I would reccommend a solid 750W unit if you plan on 460's for this rig

YoungMan November 15, 2010 11:42 PM


Originally Posted by Keltron 3030 (Post 450605)
Also, do you have plans to do SLI in the future? If so, I would reccommend a solid 750W unit if you plan on 460's for this rig

:whistle: Not very bright today..

Keltron 3030 November 16, 2010 06:30 AM

you said there was a possibility for a 460 to get thrown in here :P

fishingfanatic November 16, 2010 02:54 PM

New Builds
I would shop the BST. You can get more for less, probably enough to upgrade your gpu. 2 460s outperform a single 480, so you can get 1 now, and 1 when you're ready.

Another motherboard worth looking into is the Asus P6X58D-E. Great board with usb and sata 3. The chipset is a good one for gaming.

The 930 is a bit cheaper and overclocks well, so you can oc it to 950 speeds and better.

A larger psu is better for upgrade, and you don't want to overwork your psu. 750 is plenty, as suggested, imho.

Perhaps you can wait a bit for the SSD and get a new LED 1900x1200 or better monitor.

It should be a nice system when completed. I would install 64 bit Win 7. Good luck with the build and enjoy the new system!!!

_dangtx_ November 16, 2010 03:31 PM

1156 for the win. a highly clocked i3 will do wonders. not sure if you can fit dual 6850's in there.

save on cpu mobo and go for more gpu power.

YoungMan November 16, 2010 05:23 PM

A lot of stupid in this thread, but OK.

DSNB, I was under the impression those cases you chose were matx, but are in fact mini-itx. So you'll need to choose another case, or a different motherboard such as:
NCIX.com - Buy Gigabyte H55N-USB3 Mini ITX LGA1156 H55 DDR3 1PCI-E16 DVI HDMI Sound GBLAN eSATA USB3.0 Motherboard - GA-H55N-USB3 In Canada.


NCIX.com - Buy Intel BOXDH57JG mITX LGA1156 H57 DDR3 PCI-E16 HDMI DVI RAID Motherboard - BOXDH57JG In Canada.

_dangtx_ November 16, 2010 05:57 PM

someone noticed :)

theres a guy selling a 55n giga for 85 bucks in the bst

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