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Old September 14, 2010, 01:27 PM
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IIRC Seasonic only made two 620W power supplies and neither one was a single rail unit.
Seasonic has two 620W models right now and both are single-rail.
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Old September 14, 2010, 01:31 PM
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I agree with the others. A 460 is easily the best way to go!
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Old September 14, 2010, 02:06 PM
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Seasonic has two 620W models right now and both are single-rail.
It seems Seasonic's quite often wrong about their own products.

Checking the S12II 620W, the specs listed on the PSU itself state that there are in fact TWO 12V 20A rails. However the specs are wrong, JonnyGuru took it apart to find out how the wires are laid out and found that it was in fact a single rail design.

The M12II has specs for TWO 12V 24A rails, but I was unable to find many reviews for it. Hard OCP did a review and they have specs for 2 rails. I can't seem to find any good pics of the M12II so I can't tell for sure whether or not it's a dual rail unit or not. It also seems that most retailers have it listed as a dual rail unit.

Seasonic's website is obviously of no help. (as usual)

But back on topic, after looking at the PSUs the OP might have I would not recommend buying a GTX 480. (not to mention it's borderline budget)
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Old September 14, 2010, 03:18 PM
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I own the gtx 470 and can say that its a great card. if you are gaming at a res of 1920x1080 then get the 470 if you do not want to sli two 460. The 480 are just over $500 before tax so forget about those, its really between the 5870 and the 470. Look at the video card reviews here on HWC and see which one you like the most.. IMO the 470 is the way to go.. :)
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Old September 14, 2010, 03:25 PM
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I vote 1gb 460 as well, unless he games on a large very high res monitor (in which case go for a 470 or hd 5870)
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Old September 14, 2010, 04:33 PM
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Ilya, I think you're trying to insinuate that if it is a two rail unit that it won't balance the load properly for a GTX480, which is not the case. As long as you have enough amperage on the 12v rails, all is well.

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Old September 14, 2010, 07:20 PM
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Ilya, I think you're trying to ensenuate that if it is a two rail unit that it won't balance the load properly for a GTX480, which is not the case. As long as you have enough amperage on the 12v rails, all is well.
I apologize if it seems like I'm trying to insinuate about anything, I'm just trying to be careful not to point the OP in a bad direction. The S12II for example is actually a single rail unit with 40A on the 12V rail, the Nvidia spec requirement is 42 amps on a single rail. Obviously it shouldn't be a problem as the 480+i7 probably wouldn't ever pull the full 42 amps not to mention the unit can probably pull more than that. But the fact of the matter is you never know for sure what changes may be made to the system that would affect power consumption.
There are reasons why manufacturers list minimum requirements higher than what is realistically needed. It's not just for legal/warranty purposes but also as a responsibility to the consumer. In the same way, people (yes even fake people on random internet forums) should know that there are real people that will take your advice seriously. Yes, they should probably take your advice with a grain of salt, but we should also take responsibility for the recommendations we make.

My point is I take back the suggestion on the GTX480 because I realize it wasn't a good suggestion to begin with.

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Old September 15, 2010, 09:40 AM
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Guys we have been at this for along time and I say:

Not enough info. Tell us what resolution your son's monitor is, and then we can give you the advice you need.

500$ GFX will perform like it's supposed to on 1920x1440 and upwards

500$ GFX will perform better than cheaper cards on 1080P, but a human eye won't be able to detect the difference or it will be minor.

95% of monitors today are 1080P. GTX 460 for 200$ is enough for that.
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Guys we have been at this for along time and I say:

Not enough info. Tell us what resolution your son's monitor is, and then we can give you the advice you need.

500$ GFX will perform like it's supposed to on 1920x1440 and upwards

500$ GFX will perform better than cheaper cards on 1080P, but a human eye won't be able to detect the difference or it will be minor.

95% of monitors today are 1080P. GTX 460 for 200$ is enough for that.
Please hush yourself up.
While the GTX460 is a good card, the human eye and our brain will easily be able to detect the difference between 30fps and 60fps. It's why I cannot stand playing games on consoles. It FEELS slow, and unresponsive most of the time.
Playing SC2 at 30fps max compared to 60fps max is night and day different.

With the computer this kid has already I would recommend no less than a GTX460 1Gb, or a GTX470. The 470 being the stronger card obviously.
It will run current gen great, and continue to for a while still.
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Kid, I'm helping you too. You got the idea right, now work on your reading skills and manners. Why don't you read my post again and use your brain this time around ;)

GTX 460 on 1080P will perform at 60 FPS or higher on almost all games. GTX 480 on 1080P will do better, almost 100 FPS or higher but the human eye won't detect the difference. So unless you upgrade your display to higher resolutions, a stronger GFX would go to waste.
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