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Old August 19, 2010, 05:39 PM
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I am about pull the trigger on new build (my 1st) and would like some views about GPUs choices that I have in mind. I will be driving a Dell U2711 (native res @ 2550x1440) and the CPU will be a i7 930 (stock for now, but perhaps OCed in future).

I'm interested in very good game performance using the above mentioned monitor, which is why they will be in CF or SLI. I'm not crazy about the GTX 480s/5970s as they seem to have a reputation for being rather hot and rather loud, not to mention expensive (though if you have just one slot ...). Of course two 5780s probably wouldn't be much different, though they will most likely best a 5790 from what I can tell. Also, these choices are non-reference, which means to me that you can see what the company in question can do. The choices are as follows:

●MSI N470GTX Twin Frozr II GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5

These have gotten very good reviews on Newegg, though there are just five, which isn't a large number obviously. But they all seem to be happy with them. They seem to run cool and quietly (both relative concepts, I admit), without being undue PPs ("Power Pigs"). They're also a bit shorter than others, though in my "case" cards over 12" can be accomodated. I don't know much about MSi, but they seem to make good products. I do know that their Afterburner software is widely praised.

●GIGABYTE Super Overclock Series GV-N470SO-13I GeForce GTX 470

These are just out and they appeal to me because they are overclocked (or very easy to OC) and seem that they would run fairly cool and quietly as well with its tri-fan cooler. I base my assumption about the card based on the excellent reception that the GIGABYTE GV-N460OC-1GI GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 has received from buyers, including one very surprised 5780 owner. Again, I don't know much about Gigibyte as well, but they do offer a slightly better warranty than MSi and they have actually answered the phone. But then so did MSi. Tomshardware like it well enough.

●MSI R5870 Lightning II Radeon HD 5870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5

This is an 5870 that's been "remodeled" by MSi, with its one reviewer singing it's praises, though without blinders on tight, and it's not cheap at $464.00 (after a mail-in rebate). But the performance is supposedly stunning, which it should be. It looks a little scary, like something you'd hit someone with. They're more expensive per card than the above GTX options, the premium going from $85.00 more per card than the 470 Gigabyte to $115.00 for the 470 MSi Frozr. That means that, aside from more money, this thing had better be one "dam" good card. I can't say much about heat, noise or power consumption though.

●GIGABYTE GV-R587SO-1GD Radeon HD 5870 (Cypress XT)

This is much like the MSi directly above. But one drawback sighted on this site, I believe, is that it's a real "PP", the reviewers being very surprised at this, if not taken aback. They were also none too happy about the OC software that came with, while MSi's Afterburner seems to garner most of the praise. I won't go into great detail on this card suffice to say that it's at about 80% approval, a good sign I would assume. But, again, it isn't cheap, and it seems to run hot, though not a surprise.

By the way I have done an enormous amount of research on this build, so please don't think that I am relying on you because I'm lazy. It's just trying get more information. Have owners of these brands had trouble with service? Have their cards behaved themselves? In terms a relative performance I'd assume that the 5870s mentioned would outdo the 470s. But whether that warrants a price/noise/power usage premium is intangible. Money is money, of course.

And yes, I know that new cards are due soon, but my experience is that it takes a while for things to calm down and sort themselves out, i.e., drivers, for example, and my guess is that you're not likely to see a huge jump in performance. But then, what do I know?

Thank you for your support.
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Old August 19, 2010, 06:35 PM
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not sure two in sli at that resolution will be enough
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Old August 22, 2010, 12:44 AM
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Congrats on the awesome display!This is the way to go for extreme PC gamers!

I have never seen any 1,440 benchmarks. Don't know if games can detect it but I'm sure it will nail 1200 resolution like a M er!

GIGABYTE 5870 is going strong for 1 year now.

The only shake up so far in 2010 is the GTX 460 in mid-range, but as you already know, your display will make 2 GTX 460s in SLI its twin es, meaning it won't be an equal partnership.

Now is a bad time to start looking for a high-end card as anything you buy will look out-dated in less than 3 months, unless ATI's 6xxx series cards fall behind schedule and that is possible. Buy at your own risk.
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Old August 22, 2010, 03:02 AM
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Consider either a 5970 or 480. The 5970 is the top dog at the moment but the 480 in sli beats the 5970 handily, heat isn't as bad with good air flowing through the case. If you were wc then no problem, but with air, depending on the setup, case, mobo, heat can be an issue. Even with a pair of 5970s heat can be a problem. I mounted a high air flow fan behind my pair of 5970s and it kept the temps reasonable. The new case I have, HAF X, was designed with Nvidia's input, so a shroud for the gpu fan is supplied. In this case the 480 runs cooler because of the fan, the ATI card being too big for the fan.
Whatever you choose, that monitor should make any game look awesome.
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Old August 22, 2010, 07:31 AM
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I'd suggest going with the GTX 470 Twin Frozr II in SLI. The HSF does a fantastic job of keeping the card cool. Plus, it's very quiet.

You may want to look at the GTX 465 Twin Frozr II over at NCIX. They flash them to 470s before they ship them out. They're limited edition cards too. :)

Link: NCIX.com - Buy MSI GTX 465 Twin Frozr II Golden Edition Fermi 607MHZ 1280MB 320-BIT GDDR5 2XDVI PCI-E Video Card - N465GTX Twin Frozr II GE UNLOCKED In Canada.
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