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Old July 28, 2010, 07:36 PM
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Saying the 1055T is more future proof is a bit misleading. By the time gaming is utilizing 6 cores or even 4 cores, we'll be WAY past any current solutions on the market. The PC gaming market is having a hard of enough time utilizing even more than one core at the moment.

At any rate, the i5 750 is the better gaming chip. Heck the i5 750 is a better gaming chip than the 1090T and that's with the i5 750 at 2.66GHz and the 1090T at 3.2GHz.
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Old July 28, 2010, 08:12 PM
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If you want the better gaming chip, you want the lynnfield. For 200$ dollars I would skip all AMDs and get the i5 760/750

In 3D rendering applications, the 1090T can easily trump the Core i5 750.


The better way to look at it is to ask yourself what sort of machine you're building. If you're building a rig specifically for 3D rendering, then you can't go wrong with AMD.

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Old July 28, 2010, 09:06 PM
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For gaming on this budget, I would get a 200$ GTX460 and a cheaper 140$Phenom II X4 945 and put some more money on a case with good airflow. This is not a recommendation but a requirement. Otherwise it would severely shorten the life span of mycard and every other component in my pc.

A CPU and GPU with stock coolers at stock speeds have their wattage requirements written in their manual. For your rig a 550W PSU is enough.

The HD4890 runs HOT! and doesn't play DX11. You need the new cards if you want to play the new games. That's the circle of consumerism.

Good luck on your build!

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Old July 29, 2010, 01:53 PM
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Okay, thanks for clearing that up, so now I'll be looking for a motherboard with an LGA 1156 socket. I've been looking at a few boards, and they all seem to split the lanes for the PCI-E 16x slots to 8 slots each if you put two cards in SLI or Crossfire. Are all mobos like that? I'm just wondering because in the future if I want a slight upgrade I can buy another GTX 460 for SLI.
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Old July 29, 2010, 07:32 PM
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Going with Intel 1156 means I would recommend this motherboard to you...

Newegg.ca - ASUS P7P55D-E Pro LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

The P55 chipset means you can only do 1 card @16 or 2 cards @8 each due to needing to share the lane bandwidth. If you went with the 1366 then the X58 chipset which gives you 2 cards @16 & up to 4 cards @8 depending on the motherboard.

If you stay with AMD, the 870 & 880 gives you 1 card @16, the 890GX gives u 1 card @16 or 2 cards @8 each and the 890FX gives you 2 cards @16 & up to 4 cards @8 depending on the motherboard.

Hope this clear things up for you
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Old July 30, 2010, 06:28 AM
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Yeah P55 is a budget line that is not made for dual cards. It won't double the performance as an X58 chipset would, but I would rather game on a P55 SLI @ 2x8 rather than on an 890FX @ 2x16, but it is more expensive

You will also need a bigger PSU for dual cards. Not sure how big. May I ask what games you will play?
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Old July 31, 2010, 01:56 PM
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Thanks for clearing up the issue of the motherboard with the lanes As for the SLI bit, I'm mainly thinking that I might get an extra card in 2 years or so for a bit of a boost if its needed. By that time the 460 would probably be much cheaper than it currently is. Currently I mostly play CSS , COD 4, COH etc. But once I get this game I'd mostly play newer games like BF BC2, Starcaft 2, Crysis etc.
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Old August 1, 2010, 01:38 AM
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Glad I helped! Without SLI or OCing, you can get a PSU as low as 450. I suppose you need to add an extra 100 wats for future SLI? Not sure.
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Old August 1, 2010, 02:23 AM
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Many enthusiasts are of the opinion, myself included, that going SLI or Crossfire as an upgrade option is less logical than selling your GPU and using that money in conjunction with the money you'd spend on a compatible card to buy a new card altogether. This is because you'd be able to spend around the same amount of money for the benefits of a single GPU solution, equal or greater performance, less heat and power, and the ability to take advantage of whatever features are new to GPU's at that time. SLI and Crossfire are much more feasible if you need the bleeding edge performance at the time of initial purchase. Just my two cents.

As for P55 motherboards, I'd spring for the Asus that was already suggested or the Gigabyte UD3 for a little bit less.

Also, buying from NCIX and price matching all your items will get you the best price available in Canada for your build. That's the best advice I can give.
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Old August 1, 2010, 07:04 AM
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Many enthusiasts are of the opinion, myself included, that going SLI or Crossfire as an upgrade option is less logical than selling your GPU and using that money in conjunction with the money you'd spend on a compatible card to buy a new card altogether. This is because you'd be able to spend around the same amount of money for the benefits of a single GPU solution, equal or greater performance, less heat and power, and the ability to take advantage of whatever features are new to GPU's at that time. SLI and Crossfire are much more feasible if you need the bleeding edge performance at the time of initial purchase. Just my two cents.
Two thumbs to that . Keeping it simple, air-flowing and cool is professional. Although I would say that unlike DX10, the software platform for games, the new DX11 is picking up much faster and I predict it will last as long as DX9 did (2~3 years). So this generation of DX11-supporting cards will last quite a bit. Even better, the GTX 460 SLI is an insane value, but it is an exception to the general rule of simple is better.

As xlilmissmjx said, the Asus P7P55D pro is superb, and you are lucky to have it at 180~200$. Even without a full 16x connection on both slots, there is only a minimal performance hit with PCI-e 2.0 connections but you will suffer in 2011 if you want to play the latest multi-threaded--memory-sucking games and it won't be as easy to upgrade as having just one card.

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